10:32:29 <gencha_> what's your approach to getting rid of excessive whitespace in your generated html markup?
10:32:47 <gencha_> every now and then it creates rendering issues on stuff i'm working on and it drives me nuts
10:58:06 <beo6> hello everyone. I updated Typo3 from 6.1 to 6.2 and alongside updated all fluid powered Typo3 extensions to the latest versions. I have multiple Page-templates using my fluidpage_bootstrap however it always uses the default template now and ignores the selected page-template
11:35:18 <fger> does anybody have copy&paste probs with localized FCEs in TYPO3 6.2.4 and latest Flux dev-branch ?
11:48:06 <gencha_> floxx: i was trying to get that to work earlier, but no matter what i tried, it didn't do anything. i figured it wasn't compatible with fedext
11:49:29 <floxx> gencha_: mh. it worked in my last ft3 project. have a look into the source code http://regis24.de/
11:54:06 <gencha_> it worked fine on a project we did a couple months ago
11:54:43 <gencha_> no idea what i did wrong this time. from what i remembered, in previous projects i just set config.sourceopt.enable=1 and it worked
12:13:10 <beo6> anyone any idea? is plugin.tx_afmfluidpagesbootstrap.view.templateRootPath = EXT:afmfluidpages_bootstrap/Resources/Private/Templates/ no longer correct?
14:24:15 <randomresult> im searching for the diffrence in scss and sass
14:26:01 <BenjaminR> scss and sass? two names for the same thing
14:27:11 <BenjaminR> Sass has two syntaxes. The new main syntax (as of Sass 3) is known as “SCSS” (for “Sassy CSS”), and is a superset of CSS3’s syntax. This means that every valid CSS3 stylesheet is valid SCSS as well. SCSS files use the extension .scss.
14:27:11 <BenjaminR> The second, older syntax is known as the indented syntax (or just “Sass”).
14:38:52 <fger> yeah... we use sass/scss and compile/watch it using grunt
14:44:34 <BenjaminR> I love to crawl hunderts of XING profiles per minute javascript powered ;)
15:22:35 <BenjaminR> He has a lot of great ideas ^^
15:23:16 <batjony> and is this going to become some official part of TYPO3 ?
15:23:41 <BenjaminR> no i dont think so. as the most extensions wont
15:23:54 <BenjaminR> i think that wouldnt be a good idea anyway
15:24:12 <BenjaminR> people have to choose a solution theirselves
15:27:24 <beo6> anyone can help? updated yesterday and page template selections in the backend are ignored. it always shows the default template for all pages
15:31:14 <batjony> BenjaminR: VHS is a flow extension http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/vhs, is there any difference between it and https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/vhs
15:32:32 <batjony> but in Flow, we also have it, is it the same
15:32:59 <BenjaminR> typo3.org/extensions/repository is the extension repository. as an author you can submit extensions there and when they get approved you as can download them in the extension manager in your typo3 cms backend
15:33:37 <BenjaminR> we maintain on github and for then we pack releases and publish them to the typo3 extension repository
15:40:10 <batjony> BenjaminR: do all these fluidtypo3 extensions somehow decrease using the Typoscirpt ?
15:40:57 <BenjaminR> you will NEED LESS typoscript but you CAN use as much as before :D
15:41:54 <batjony> for example as I see for menus rendering there are menus objects in typoscript http://docs.typo3.org/typo3cms/TyposcriptReference/MenuObjects/Index.html
15:42:08 <batjony> do we need them when switch to fluid templating
15:44:27 <batjony> and for forms, do we have a way where we can store all the forms in files (instead of db)
15:45:24 <batjony> for example in Zend, we have /forms/Contact.php, you initialize it in the controller and then pass it to the view, so in the view, we have just <?php echo $this->form; ?>
15:47:55 <BenjaminR> there are multiple solutions for forms. but that doesnt depend on which engine you use for your page and content templates
15:48:22 <BenjaminR> most likely you will use one of the extensions available on ter
15:48:32 <BenjaminR> ter is the shorthand for typo3 extension repository
15:49:13 <batjony> BenjaminR: the idea is to desribe every form in a file, and then initialize it in the controller and pass it to the view template
15:50:49 <BenjaminR> posting this to a extbase controller action will pass all values as action parameter
15:51:10 <BenjaminR> one array named like the form
15:54:15 <batjony> and last question for now :) I can keep all the fluid templating and configurations in files right and no DB records ?
15:55:55 <BenjaminR> yes, your templates will be stores in files. also your default configuration. configuration changes done in the backend will be saved to the database
15:56:07 <BenjaminR> fx changes to typoscript variables
15:57:05 <BenjaminR> batjony: an example for a so called provider extension: https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/fluidtypo3org
15:57:21 <BenjaminR> its the template used for fluidtypo3.org
15:58:12 <gencha_> how should one format the "stack" in v:if?
15:58:36 <BenjaminR> gencha_ you will have to ask danilobuerger :D
15:58:54 <danilobuerger> its described in a PR somewhere
15:59:08 <beo6> please can anyone help me? I am sure it must be some small issue but i haven't found anything wrong especially since it worked before the update. :(
15:59:10 <danilobuerger> nobody bothered to take the info from the PR and actually write it in the class dock of v:if
15:59:29 <gencha_> danilobuerger: could you point me at the PR?
16:00:00 <fger> hi, any clue if sys_categories of page-records inherit on their childs ? :) ?
16:00:03 <BenjaminR> danilobueger: not even you :)
16:00:42 <gencha_> beo6: no idea about that problem. i feel like i encountered it as well recently, but it just went away while i was working on other stuff :P
16:01:19 <beo6> gencha_: well. that is no solution for me. i already went avay yesterday and hoped it will solve itself today. But nothing. ;)
16:03:02 <beo6> i checked all typoscripts and the template paths seem to be correct. It even seems to find the templates since i can see them for selection in the backend and i can select the templates. But they just don't change in the frontend...
16:05:00 <beo6> i have really no more ideas what the problem might be. It is really the last remaining issue after the update... :(
16:05:50 <danilobuerger> from where did you update from?
16:09:39 <batjony> BenjaminR: could I store also the backend layouts in files ?
16:09:52 <beo6> i even compared my fluidpages bootstrap extension with the fluidpages_bootstrap from the extension. It seems there has not so much changed.
16:10:05 <dalder> Hi there! Does anybody have a general solution to make VHS and PageRenderer working together? In my tests VHS files are always included after PageRenderer files. But jquery for example will be included via VHS (template). Community extension use PageRender inclusion. So in fact the script from the extension will not find jquery. Any idea? Thx! VHS
16:15:26 <beo6> might this be my issue? https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/fluidpages/commit/a9cae73400eae5d292f5bc27fac8792a91b261b4
16:17:31 <danilobuerger> beo6 whats the issue anyway? you have a number of page templates and only the default one is taken? whats the default one?
16:18:49 <beo6> danilobuerger: the default template is the Render.html template in my own fluidpages_bootstrap extension under ext\afmfluidpages_bootstrap\Resources\Private\Templates\Page\
16:19:11 <beo6> and it is indeed the same template that is on the first page in my pagetree
16:20:54 <danilobuerger> so what happens if you change the template to something else on the root page?
16:21:18 <beo6> yeah. just tried that and it still is the same template... so i am back at the beginning
16:22:15 <danilobuerger> what do you mean by same template? Is it still Render.html even if you change it on the root page to something else?
16:24:40 <danilobuerger> beo6 to 99 % then you are doing something wrong
16:24:42 <beo6> i cleared the cache in the install tool. is that enough?
16:25:27 <beo6> i would love to know what i am doing wrong. Because it worked before the updates
16:25:48 <beo6> and i have changed nothing on the templates. just updated typo3 and all extensions
16:26:39 <danilobuerger> alright set the page template on your root template to something different then Render.html .. then in the database do select `uid`, `tx_fed_page_controller_action` from `pages` where `uid` = ###YOUR ROOT UID###;
17:01:12 <Guest|39259> Hi, I am currently diving into Fluid/Flux but I am very stuck. Is there anywhere an up to date tutorial or comprehensive documentation? I went several times through this https://worksonmymachine.org/blog/fluidtypo3-quickstart and also http://fluidtypo3.org/documentation/templating-manual/templating/creating-templates/content-element.html (I am usin
17:04:01 <beo6> danilobuerger: just tried to update to the develop versions of the extensions and the only thing i got was a Fatal error: Call to a member function get() on a non-object in ...BackendConfigurationManager
17:05:01 <danilobuerger> beo6 that means that you didnt clear the caches in the install tool
17:05:21 <beo6> i would have if i was able to go into the install tool. but the install tool also showed the error. :)
17:05:43 <danilobuerger> delete typo3temp, try again
17:06:10 <beo6> i did. still error. Now i revert back to the typo3 extension repository versions
17:06:29 <beo6> i was able to see one template at least with these versions
17:07:04 <Guest|39259> The extensions used are: flux 7.0 - fluidpages 3.0 - fluidcontent 4.0 - vhs 1.9.1
17:08:16 <danilobuerger> beo6 development works just fine.. if you cant access install tool after upgrading you should delete typo3temp and truncate all cache tables
17:14:02 <danilobuerger> well if something is wrong you are more than welcome to change it
17:14:19 <beo6> true. i looked here: http://fluidtypo3.org/documentation/templating-manual/templating/using-templates/selecting-page-templates.html and it is just an empty page. :)
17:14:29 <Guest|39259> As a beginner it is extremly difficult to understand what exactly is wrong.
17:14:58 <Guest|39259> I just see that the code does not work, even after playing it through like 6 times on a fresh install each time.
17:15:15 <danilobuerger> well but then your question should be why is code XYZ not working
17:15:21 <danilobuerger> that way you will probably get help
17:15:32 <Guest|39259> okay, get it. will get more specific. will play it through one more time.
17:17:17 <beo6> danilobuerger: nope. the dev versions do not work for me. i just get Fatal error: Call to a member function get() on a non-object in /../typo3conf/ext/flux/Classes/Configuration/BackendConfigurationManager.php on line 176
17:17:29 <danilobuerger> which tables did you truncate?
17:20:47 <danilobuerger> after you truncated those tables did you remove everything in typo3temp?
17:20:54 <danilobuerger> and how are you accessing the install tool?
17:21:30 <beo6> i was able to access the install tool, updated the database and cleared all caches. still the error. So now i truncated the tables
17:21:45 <beo6> and now i am clearing the typo3temp folder again to see
17:21:49 <danilobuerger> oh i thought you couldnt access the install tool?
17:22:07 <beo6> yeah. somehow when i was in the backend it didnt worked. but with typo3/install it worked
17:22:42 <beo6> nope. still not working. can't access the backend anymore
17:22:44 <danilobuerger> alright so in the install tool click on clear all caches... if after that you still get the error.. somewhere you have a config error
17:22:56 <danilobuerger> possibly LocalConfiguration or such
17:23:20 <beo6> even though with the typo3 extension repository versions it works?
17:40:14 <bjo3rn> this is only relevant for autoloading
17:40:25 <beo6> still getting this: Could not analyse class:FluidTYPO3\Vhs\ViewHelpers\Var\SetViewHelper maybe not loaded or no autoloader? (1289386765)
18:23:10 <Outdoorsman> Ahhh I need advice from someone that knows the TYPO3 database.
18:24:24 <Outdoorsman> Before I knew that flux/etc didn't support workspaces, I edited some things in another workspace and published the changes to live workspace.
18:25:52 <Outdoorsman> Now my main storage folder shows in two places in the page tree when logged in as a non-admin BE user, but when I'm logged in as an admin I see it only once.
18:26:40 <Outdoorsman> When I hover over the Main Storage folder the ID of the page is the same for both instances.
18:28:15 <Outdoorsman> Thanks for at least responding.
18:28:58 <Outdoorsman> I'm not sure which table is responsible for the page tree in the BE... do you guys know?
18:31:01 <Outdoorsman> Maybe @NamelessCoder would know?
18:34:36 <Outdoorsman> It must be determined from the 'uid' field in the 'pages' table. I think 'pid' is the 'uid' of the page that the record belongs to.
18:50:47 <Outdoorsman> I'm a genius... ha ha. I added two mount points for my BE users, the root page (which had the main storage folder as a subpage) and the main storage folder. This cause the page to show up twice.
18:51:56 <Outdoorsman> Only one mount point was needed for that BE user group since all pages were subpages to that root page. Thanks bjo3rn for at least commenting :)
19:00:31 <bjo3rn> your very welcome. I'm always happy to help =)