02:39:36 <NamelessCoder> Context set to Development?
02:39:41 <Outdoorsman> I'm guessing there's a race condition somewhere or something?
02:39:54 <Outdoorsman> Yes, I have it set to development.
02:40:01 <Outdoorsman> I don't have uncache installed.
02:40:22 <NamelessCoder> okay - Development context does indeed put a LOT of extra load on your site because fluidcontent will continually parse your templates
02:40:36 <NamelessCoder> first thing is to try this in Production mode
02:41:10 <Outdoorsman> There's development in TYPO3 and then there are some development things in Flux. Which one particularly are you referring to?
02:41:42 <NamelessCoder> the so-called "TYPO3 Context" variable - ENV setting, normally specified in your server's virtual host configuration
02:42:01 <NamelessCoder> SetEnv TYPO3_CONTEXT Production
02:43:09 <Outdoorsman> In Flux I just checked and had basis.disableCompiler = 1 so am disabling that first.
02:43:18 <NamelessCoder> this one is hugely important in 6.2 - default is to use Production but if you changed this to Development you should surely expect a much slower site
02:43:30 <NamelessCoder> that one must never be on in production mode ;)
02:44:38 <NamelessCoder> 60s is still pretty crazy - I have almost the exact same setup as you locally, in Development context it renders in around 12 seconds which is pretty damn slow too
02:45:05 <Outdoorsman> It's certainly not production yet, but would like to start showing the client what i have done so far and owuld like it to be a BIT more responsive :)
02:48:07 <NamelessCoder> can you ask for php 5.5 or ask for APC?
02:49:05 <Outdoorsman> Just disabled that dev stuff and it's doing much better. Checking the timing.
02:49:31 <NamelessCoder> I have plenty more tricks
02:52:28 <Outdoorsman> Well it's much faster, but I see that there's something else that's slowing things down on my local network so my *faster* times aren't representative of actual time.
02:52:57 <NamelessCoder> you should do these now anyways:
02:53:35 <Outdoorsman> Nevertheless, thanks. This is my first time using dev mode in TYPO3 6.2 so wasn't aware of it actually disabling cache.
02:53:46 <NamelessCoder> in install tool: 1) disable deprecation logging completely, 2) set minimum required SEVERITY for logging to WARNING or even FATAL, 3) Increase default caches lifetime from 3600 to something like 86400
02:54:23 <Outdoorsman> That would be more appropriate for most of the site I'm working with.
02:54:42 <NamelessCoder> 4) set FE.versionNumberInFilename to empty string
02:55:31 <NamelessCoder> 5) make sure mod_expires is loaded, 6) target assets types like js,css,png etc. and increase cache lifetime for those
02:55:45 <Outdoorsman> Thanks for the tips. I noticed that the deprecation log was enabled by default with the beta version of 6.2, but I believe the first full release disables deprecation logging by default thankfully. That's a lot of unneeded data unless you needing it.
02:55:57 <NamelessCoder> 7) set BufferedLogs On, 8) Move rules from .htaccess into virtualhost file
02:56:25 <NamelessCoder> I guarantee you these will increase your performance by several factors ;)
02:56:56 <Outdoorsman> I noticed your speedy distribution of TYPO3 so was guessing you'd know just a TAB about the topic :)
02:56:59 <NamelessCoder> the slower your system is in general, the more impact these will have.
02:57:30 <NamelessCoder> fluidtypo3.org is the culmination of all those tricks put together and it is FAST
02:57:33 <Outdoorsman> I have a fairly well powered machine but of course I'm running a number of sites, so it can have an impace.
02:57:46 <NamelessCoder> it does *all* that and also adds Varnish
02:58:20 <Outdoorsman> Nice. I have a Varnish server but am still tweaking it and don't have it in production on any sites yet.
02:58:34 <NamelessCoder> you definitely should fire that project up again
03:00:08 <Outdoorsman> I'll get back with you when I can test it better. Right now I'm working through a remote connection and can't fix some of the local network issues till I get back to the office.
03:02:37 <Outdoorsman> I'm using fbtcustomiser and notice that I was getting dual loading of jquery and other assets. It looks like fluidbootstraptheme uses typoscript to load assets and fbtcustomiser had a partials file called SharedResources.
03:03:19 <Outdoorsman> What's the preferred method to handle an overlay of assets?
03:03:27 <NamelessCoder> aah, in that case fbtcustomiser is not up-to-date
03:03:43 <NamelessCoder> preferred simply for performance reasons: TS defined VHS assets
03:04:10 <NamelessCoder> we discourage inclusion of file-based assets in templates unless it is with good reason, fx in an FCE
03:04:52 <NamelessCoder> yes: EXT:fluidbootstraptheme does the right thing, uses TS. The other ext should also do this but I think it is simply because randomresult is not yet finished with that one
03:05:27 <Outdoorsman> I hacked at it a bit thinking the file was the way to go so ended up doing things like... plugin.tx_vhs.settings.asset.bootstrapcss >
03:06:53 <Outdoorsman> I guess I will try to rewrite that file into TS instead. So glad I asked. Try to ping randomresult on that if I don't get around to it. I seem to be offline when he's around.
03:08:01 <NamelessCoder> the time difference is pretty big (it's 3 AM here)
03:08:04 <Outdoorsman> Well, I have to run. Thanks again. That put me miles ahead from where I was just a few minutes ago. I'm excited to check out the stuff in the irc log link. Later @NamelessCoder.
03:08:14 <NamelessCoder> yes you should rewrite that file to TS - it is much easier to control
03:08:24 <NamelessCoder> use the same names as fluidbootstraptheme's TS
03:08:40 <NamelessCoder> that way they just overwrite instead of duplicate :)
03:09:07 <NamelessCoder> alright - have a nice day, cya :)
03:09:26 <Outdoorsman> Yes, I noticed he didn't quite use the same names... some of the names had hyphens like bootstrap-css. I making it match but it didn't seem to overlay correctly even then. I had to just empy the TS vales.
03:09:36 <NamelessCoder> it's all my fault actually
03:09:50 <NamelessCoder> I adjusted his strategy for asset inclusion as well as the names they use
03:10:08 <NamelessCoder> - better to follow the absolute best practice since the ext is going to be popular
03:10:17 <Outdoorsman> You don't have to confess... it's ok :) I'm just glad to know what to do.
03:10:28 <Outdoorsman> Hopefully it gets updated soon.
03:10:51 <Outdoorsman> I'm checking out now. Thanks :)
03:10:52 <NamelessCoder> I almost assume that is something he'll be working on this week
10:18:17 <alex_schnitzler> Is there already a plan when fcc supports text+images?
10:19:46 <hsp2n> benjaminr made a quick gist for that
10:20:56 <randomresult> alex_schnitzler seems to be a big thing as they want text+images compatible to the TS-Version (lots of choices you can make in there)
10:21:05 <hsp2n> quick question to the merry men: my boss would like to know if fcc will go stable before/in march.
10:22:09 <alex_schnitzler> randomresult: So if I need it, I implement it myself I guess
10:22:32 <randomresult> i think benjaminr has an alternative ... did you mention it benjaminr ?
10:23:10 <randomresult> i think the problem is --> if you switch from one to another... the existing elements. if you start from scratch, you should be fine
10:27:47 <Bomwollen> how is it possible to add a (logo) section in a partial that is then configured in the constant editor
10:29:00 <BenjaminR> Typoscript Setup below plugin.tx_yourproviderextension.settings is availble in the template automatically as {settings}
10:30:34 <BenjaminR> Depending on what value your constant is expected to contain you choose a matching viewhelper. fx if the value indicates the path to the file use regular fluid image f:image viewhelper and pass value to is. Following a complete example:
10:31:37 <BenjaminR> Your Typoscript Constant plugin.tx_yourproviderextension.settings.myLogoPathAndFilename can be used in the template with <f:image src="{settings.myLogoPathAndFilename}" /> to render an image
10:32:30 <Bomwollen> thank you BenjaminR i ll try that
10:33:19 <hsp2n> is there any news on when fcc might go "stable"?
10:33:25 <Bomwollen> one more thing BenjaminR, i am using an extension a normal tab navigation and a dropdown navigation partial
10:33:38 <Bomwollen> i mean it provides both partials
10:33:45 <BenjaminR> hsp2n: you can use it without many doubts. i use it in production as danilobuerger and alexschnitzler also do
10:34:20 <hsp2n> boss would like to see a "officially released" build
10:34:27 <Bomwollen> well what i want is to replace the used tabnavigation with the dropdown navigation ( to show if a page has subpages), but this seems not to work
10:34:32 <hsp2n> would be nice, but I guess I can convince him if that doesn't work out
10:35:36 <BenjaminR> Bomwollen: didnt understand the szenario - sorry
10:36:25 <Bomwollen> ok, i have an extension with different fluid templates, and partials
10:39:21 <BenjaminR> okay so i am ready for your explanation :)
10:39:53 <Bomwollen> so let me go on , one partial is called navigation and it uses the template tabnavigation.html: http://pastebin.com/w4QTSw2p
10:41:53 <hsp2n> so is there a roadmap for fcc? I'd need a statement wether or not there will be a "release" before or in may. I need this so I can argue for fcc appropriately
10:42:04 <Bomwollen> this is the tabnavigation partial: http://pastebin.com/GAnkHSwh i want to replace in navigation.html the tabnavigation with dropdown navigation: http://pastebin.com/1wxzD8kG but it does not work
10:43:07 <Bomwollen> as far as i understand replacement happens here: <f:render section="TabNavigation" partial="TabNavigation" arguments="{_all}"/>
10:44:50 <Guest15662> Hi there, i'm using TYPO3 6.1.7 wirh fluidcontent, i have an FCE with a form.content section, so additional FCEs can be placed in this FCE, but if i translate this FCE the inner FCEs are not translated(copied) is this possible with fluidcontent?
10:48:14 <BenjaminR> hsp2n: here is our roadmap http://fluidtypo3.org/roadmap.html
10:55:52 <BenjaminR> so you have to describe what "but it doesnt work" means :)
11:02:13 <Bomwollen> BenjaminR when I change the section name to DropdownNavigation this frontend crashes and this exception occures: http://pastebin.com/PtVGUAxj
11:04:44 <BenjaminR> Bomwollen: i see! which version of vhs do you use?
11:20:28 <Torstenn> Hi, im using fluidcontent and want to copy nested content element to another language but he doesnt copy the nested elements, is this general possible?
11:51:34 <BenjaminR> Torstenn: most times the error message says the truth :) go to list module and check for doub etranslation
11:53:03 <Torstenn> ok your right, on the first "copy" it struggles with the languages, and create one element with the correct lang and the second with the wrong
11:55:18 <shaggz> Hey guys, I updated some of your extensions and experiencing some strange behaviour.
11:57:56 <BenjaminR> shaggz: are you aware of the changed namespaces for viewhelpers? flux:flexform -> flux:form, flux:flexform.field -> flux:field any many more
11:58:29 <shaggz> I used the update script of danilo to fix namespacing problems.
12:00:01 <shaggz> Some problems disappeared but the frontend is still not working
12:00:15 <shaggz> The requested page didn't have a proper connection to the tree-root
12:04:48 <Crewcut> How do i update the vhs ext without removing it from ext. manager (due to dependencies in other fluidtypo3 ext)?
12:06:44 <robsonrobi> Good morning. I recently updated from TYPO3 6.1.7 to 6.2 and therefore needed to upgrade, vhs, fluidpages,fluidcontent and flux. everything worked great, but now i am confronted with duplicate elements in the backend. my content f.e. is in an fce and there are some content elements, in the BE i see these elements but they are hidden + i see them on
12:06:45 <robsonrobi> the page. Deleting one objecte results in deleting both.
12:16:36 <mrboe> this works for me: update typo3 and launch the update wizard > update the extensions and run the update scripts (the littel green arrows in extension manager) > after that compare databse
12:52:20 <Rawai> and when we translate content elements by click on copy default content elements than the content inside the column rows text or text with image etc. is gone.
12:52:40 <Rawai> Beside this the Content Elements in the backend are overlapping itself which makes it nearly impossible to click the right buttons
12:52:48 <Rawai> Also there seems to be no way to insert content which has already been translated ie. in list view as it does not show up on the page. Instead we get in field column [INVALID VALUE (“-2”)]
12:54:21 <Rawai> we ran all update scripts which came with teh extensions and all say 0 rows have been updated
12:55:24 <NamelessCoder> Rawai see https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/flux/issues/242 - a fix is coming
13:05:42 <NamelessCoder> Rawai some of it could be fixed in https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/flux/tree/workbench/commands - and we would appreciate feedback on https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/flux/pull/524
13:07:07 <Rawai> how can we get the fix 524 easy to test it
13:50:38 <Rawai> same problem here even with the second language
13:50:53 <Rawai> as soon as you have already existing records with languages
13:52:13 <Rawai> @Claus the copy of the elements is working only when there werent any translated records before in list view. flux 7.1.0
13:52:52 <Rawai> beside this the create new button below the images is disappearing when hovering over or it is more or less inside the left corner of the CE above
13:55:10 <Rawai> If you have columns i.e. 41.67% / 33.33% / 25% than the 25% part is overlapping the other translation column and it is only possible to click the copy content button when calling the page. as soon as you click on the column i.e. to the right now way to click copy again.
14:02:29 <Rawai> it is also not possible to edit the actual column element while you can activate the CEs inside of it - but won't see anything in FE as parent Element is hidden
14:03:45 <Rawai> you can activate the parent in List view !
14:04:43 <Rawai> but in language view the translated parent element has no icons to edit or move and everything in there stays grey
14:06:40 <Rawai> after enableling the parent element in list view the the parent element has still no icons but looks now good, also the elements inside of it. Parent can't be edited or moved while nested CE show thebutton to move but can't be moved in lLanguages View
14:10:16 <Rawai> the copied nested element has now under relations a new dropdown: Content Area of Parent: but inside everything is [INVALID VALUE (column 2)] _ thow you can change it to 16.67% (column 3)
14:12:49 <Rawai> In a column 50 33 16 with each elements in the translated column the 33 element gets listed in 16 above the 16 element and no way to move it actually to 33
14:13:23 <Torstenn> is there a roadmap when this could work?
14:17:12 <Rawai> Another even bigger problem IMHO is that if you have already translated elements you can't assign them to any column. also "Content Area of Parent" in Tab Relations is not existing in already existing but translated CEs - so still same problem as before - no way to get translations assigned to a certain place
14:18:18 <Rawai> In TV there was at least a place where you could see all non used elements but this is not existinghere
14:19:07 <NamelessCoder> Rawai "unused" elements don't exist as such, but lost relations can be found using the "list" view
14:19:32 <Rawai> well but how can you assign them again?
14:20:24 <Rawai> copy content is not working when translations already exist
14:20:34 <NamelessCoder> yes; either set the colPos, language or parent element to make the element a child or move it to fx top of a column to drag-drop it into place afterwards
14:21:50 <Torstenn> ok i checked it, the problem is that, on copy to another language, the nested content elements get the wrong language
14:22:03 <Torstenn> if you have more than two languages
14:23:25 <NamelessCoder> please see https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/flux/pull/524 and https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/flux/pull/511 - if your symptoms are listed there, we know about them and intend to fix them
14:23:34 <NamelessCoder> if they are not listed there, please add them on https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/flux/pull/524
14:24:36 <NamelessCoder> and of course: please use the branch workbench/commands when you test these - symptoms reported from the development branch will only confuse this, making a fix take longer
14:28:43 <Rawai> ok Claus when I change the column to Fluid Content Area in both the original and the translation (List View) than only in the Original the Relation field exists with only one column i.e. 16.67% even there are 3 columns available. In the translation this field is missing
14:29:31 <NamelessCoder> this should be noted in the issue flux#524 as it could indicate a need to add this to the translation overlay
14:31:08 <shaggz> Hey Nameless, I updated all of your extensions but it seems that the content elements are now broken. The controls are gone (edit, hide ... when you hover over an element) and the labels are gone so I can not edit in page view
14:32:47 <NamelessCoder> before you report problems here, please see the list on https://github.com/organizations/FluidTYPO3/dashboard/issues/repos?direction=desc&page=1&sort=popularity&state=open
14:33:41 <Rawai> at least there is a workaround like Claus pointed out - Assigning the translated CE to MainContent Column and than drag and drop everything to get back the design also in the Translation.
14:33:57 <NamelessCoder> if you use TER versions, also check the list of closed issues as we close issues when fixed in development
14:36:43 <shaggz> The drag and drop is not the important one, but the labels should be visible
14:36:49 <NamelessCoder> no worries - we just have to centralise this in a more permanent location, and give you a way to find possible solutions/workarounds faster than waiting for me to come around ;)
14:41:44 <shaggz> I didn't find an issue about the missing labels on github
14:47:19 <shaggz> Okay it's not only the labels. As I said, the controls are not visible. Maybe someone has a hint for me. @Nameless this was the same problem last time as i switched back to flux 6.0.2
14:49:00 <NamelessCoder> danilobuerger is our man for that fix - my personal choice would have been to remove our script from the languages view
14:51:01 <danilobuerger> our script doesnt have to be present in languages view as d&d isnt supported there by the core either
14:51:23 <NamelessCoder> danilobuerger but you agreed to turn the bug report into a feature request ;)
14:51:57 <shaggz> Thats okay, do you know why the labels of the content elements are not visible?
14:52:17 <danilobuerger> i didnt agree ^^, i just asked if thats what he wanted... i am not going to implement d&d fpr languages view
14:58:17 <danilobuerger> shaggz i will have to leave now too, but maybe randomresult can help you out... other than that see http://fluidtypo3.org/blog/news/flux-70-released.html
15:09:31 <randomresult> Torstenn here u find an example https://github.com/bootstraptheme-for-typo3/fluidbootstraptheme/blob/master/Resources/Private/Language/locallang.xlf
15:10:43 <Torstenn> and in the command branch of flux danilo has implemented the copy and translate for nested elements, but it doesnt work correct for more than two languages
15:11:07 <Rawai> Hi Torsten I have same problem I guess
15:11:19 <danilobuerger> Torstenn thats a known issue, the workbench branch is not finished yet
15:21:53 <Torstenn> i think i have some other kind of problem
15:21:53 <shaggz> @randomresult are you still here? ^^ Do you have an idea what I can do?
15:22:52 <Torstenn> ive insert a CE with a nested CE and if i translate it the "container" CE has the right language but the nested element has the wrong language
15:23:19 <Rawai> here you set now the column - you will see that it will give you actually no choice to choose anything so simply choose what is there ;-)
15:24:11 <Rawai> you can change the language to in that view. Have you checked that you named the language the same like the id (flag) is
15:24:23 <Rawai> sometimes it happens that this gets forgotten
15:24:34 <Rawai> and than German shows up with English flag
15:24:50 <Rawai> or English title even it is German
15:33:14 <Rawai> for this reassigning work it would be great to have actually a possibility to list all fields you check in parallel so that you can see all of them at the same time and that they don't get sorted a-z after you click the edit button which is total crab
15:36:43 <Rawai> Also the naming of the column does not get into those tables - which means your "Hero" might be Left and your Main will be "Normal" etc- very confusing
16:38:10 <pedda> i need to relaunch a website with direct_mail, powermail, some user registration, login, and migrarte tt_news dam resources to tx_news fal
17:16:09 <Rawai> @pedda we are working on three 6.2 projects but many things simply don't work as you mentioned already. YAG, Indexed_search, felogin, etc
17:16:26 <danilobuerger> indexed_search is working on 6.2
17:16:49 <Rawai> we get errors here and just deactivated it
17:17:19 <danilobuerger> Rawai that will most likely be a configuration error.. indexed_search is definitely working
17:17:34 <floxx> felogin is not working under 6.2? oO
17:17:58 <Rawai> well try to update a site - new sites work right
17:18:18 <danilobuerger> i did update a site to 6.2 and indexed_search works
17:21:25 <NamelessCoder> danilobuerger have you also confirmed that after clearing the indexed_search indexes they rebuild?
18:18:07 <Outdoorsman> randomresult... Just letting you know that I found out yesterday SharedResources.html used in fbtcustomiser should be ported to TS instead to follow best practice according to @NamelessCoder. Just thought I'd ping you on that if it wasn't on your radar yet.
18:18:36 <randomresult> its removed from fbtcustomizer already
18:18:50 <Outdoorsman> I guess I have an older version :(
18:22:13 <Outdoorsman> Yes... that compact version of adding assets using something like this is only one line instead of 5 or 6... <v:asset.script name="bootstrap-core" group="cdn" path="//netdna.bootstrapcdn.com/bootstrap/3.1.1/js/bootstrap.min.js" external="TRUE" standalone="TRUE" dependencies="jquery" />
18:23:18 <Outdoorsman> I'm fine using TS as well though. I just want to do things the *right* way.
18:23:32 <randomresult> well... both is the same in the end. but you can override TS with TS . so you dont need to change the templates. you can do it in the templated stored in your database. so can fix something in the backend without touching the files..
18:24:21 <Outdoorsman> That would probably save having to flush quit as many cache file too then huh?
23:06:43 <soee> i would like to see flux and other on http://translation.typo3.org/
23:07:07 <soee> so it would be easy to have it localized
23:45:42 <Outdoorsman> I want to Alternate Navigation Title to be used in my menu. Isn't it supposed to show by default? Docs for titleFields are found here, http://fluidtypo3.org/viewhelpers/vhs/1.3.2/Page/MenuViewHelper.html
23:46:59 <Outdoorsman> This is what I have entered, maybe I just have a typo or something?? <v:page.menu entryLevel="{settings.entryLevel}" useShortcutData="TRUE" titleFields="navtitle,title">
23:47:50 <danilobuerger> Outdoorsman which version of vhs?
23:50:54 <Outdoorsman> I'm using GitHub development version. I updated it about a week ago.
23:52:36 <Outdoorsman> I created a shortcut called "Home" in the page tree that points to the root page. The root page is titled the name of the site with the word "Home" in the Alternate Navigation Title field in page properties.
23:53:10 <Outdoorsman> It is not displaying the word "Home" as I think it should.
23:53:15 <danilobuerger> and the shortcut doesnt get resolved?
23:53:39 <Outdoorsman> Yes, it's resolving and pointing the the uid of the root page.
23:54:26 <danilobuerger> i meant the label... is it only for shortcuts that navtitle is not used?