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20140401

  • 00:00:49 <Denyerec> ok
  • 00:00:52 <Denyerec> I'll do it
  • 00:00:56 <Denyerec> I'm not sure I like it but I'll do it ;)
  • 00:00:59 <Denyerec> I've also forked the docs repo
  • 00:06:10 <BenjaminR> (Y)
  • 00:07:46 <BenjaminR> About variable names: Myself simply trusted in NamelessCoder regarding this convention and afterwards you get familiar with it very fast :)
  • 00:08:47 <BenjaminR> Well - second appraoch to say good bye! over and out
  • 00:21:57 <danilobuerger> wb randomresult
  • 00:23:10 <Denyerec> I think he does that to taunt us.
  • 00:23:22 <danilobuerger> hehe
  • 00:23:29 <Denyerec> Can you create an FCE that you can drag/drop/create normal CEs in?
  • 00:23:44 <Denyerec> I want to have an FCE that's basically a link to "read more" that reveals the other content if clicked.
  • 00:23:52 <danilobuerger> sure
  • 00:24:37 <danilobuerger> Denyerec very basic one here -> https://gist.github.com/danilobuerger/ea239cde245b8e9146f8
  • 00:24:42 <Denyerec> is there a childishly simple exam...
  • 00:24:43 <Denyerec> heh
  • 00:24:55 <danilobuerger> it doesnt get simpler than that ;=
  • 00:25:20 <Denyerec> So that literally creates a single-cell content box to drop other CEs int
  • 00:25:21 <Denyerec> into
  • 00:25:25 <Denyerec> that's idea.
  • 00:25:26 <Denyerec> ideal.
  • 00:25:34 <Denyerec> cos I can just pioke my collapsing divs around it.
  • 00:26:17 <danilobuerger> i have like a gazillion of those
  • 00:26:21 <danilobuerger> everyone with a specific purpose
  • 00:27:22 <Denyerec> Yeha I had a collection of TV FCE's
  • 00:27:30 <Denyerec> I guess I need to start my new collection of fluid CEs :)
  • 00:29:58 <danilobuerger> well next motnh we are trying to introduce fluidshare
  • 00:30:23 * danilobuerger Online repository with user-contributed templates for content, pagess etc.
  • 00:31:10 <Denyerec> Ooh man
  • 00:31:22 <Denyerec> FluidShare sounds like the most awesome thing that could happen.
  • 00:31:25 <danilobuerger> :D
  • 00:31:37 <Denyerec> Quick Q before I bury my head in some CSS
  • 00:31:50 <Denyerec> My FCE, all my fields appear in the General tab, below everything else.
  • 00:32:03 <Denyerec> Is there a any way to make them appear on their own tab?
  • 00:32:36 <danilobuerger> sheets
  • 00:32:56 <Denyerec> I made a sheet
  • 00:33:02 <Denyerec> and the sheet appears at the bottom of the general tab :)
  • 00:33:56 <danilobuerger> ah yes
  • 00:33:58 <danilobuerger> hmm
  • 00:33:59 <Denyerec> It appears under "plugin options"
  • 00:34:14 <danilobuerger> i like your idea, add a feature issue to fluidcontent
  • 00:34:23 <danilobuerger> we did the same thing with fluidpages a while back
  • 00:34:26 <Denyerec> Yes
  • 00:34:31 <Denyerec> the Layout an dOPtions thing.
  • 00:34:32 <Denyerec> Could not analyse class:FluidTYPO3\Flux\ViewHelpers\Form\Field\InputViewHelper maybe not loaded or no autoloader? (1289386765)
  • 00:34:33 <Denyerec> Ug oh
  • 00:34:44 <Denyerec> I'm assuming that means my flux:form section is bobbed
  • 00:35:25 <Denyerec> I took all the labels out of the field.input tags and put them in LLL
  • 00:35:35 <danilobuerger> ?
  • 00:35:40 <Denyerec> moment
  • 00:35:42 <Denyerec> Gisting
  • 00:36:28 <Denyerec> https://gist.github.com/Denyerec/724c333a32ec00ec71e2
  • 00:36:48 <danilobuerger> namespace at top?
  • 00:37:17 <danilobuerger> and its probably <flux:field.input
  • 00:37:17 <Denyerec> REFRESH
  • 00:37:19 <Denyerec> i UPDATED
  • 00:37:23 <Denyerec> Ohhh
  • 00:37:28 <Denyerec> Hmm
  • 00:38:37 <Denyerec> ok yes
  • 00:38:40 <Denyerec> field.input
  • 00:38:49 <Denyerec> my labels... need settings.
  • 00:38:51 <Denyerec> Gah! :)
  • 00:38:53 <Denyerec> Il'll get there.
  • 00:40:22 <Denyerec> Brilliant
  • 00:41:53 <Denyerec> OK so
  • 00:44:12 <Denyerec> I've got my fields settings.address1, town county
  • 00:44:16 <Denyerec> (all settings.)
  • 00:44:33 <Denyerec> is there an easy way to implode them
  • 00:44:41 <Denyerec> imagine if they were a sparse array, I'd then do:
  • 00:44:50 <Denyerec> echo implode($array, ', ');
  • 00:45:12 <Denyerec> Except obviously I don't have a sparse array
  • 00:45:18 <danilobuerger> show gist
  • 00:45:45 <Denyerec> https://gist.github.com/Denyerec/724c333a32ec00ec71e2
  • 00:45:52 <Denyerec> I'm creating the preview.
  • 00:46:00 <Denyerec> I could do it with conditionals like in the output.
  • 00:46:07 <danilobuerger> and what do you want to do?
  • 00:46:11 <Denyerec> But I just casually wondered if there was an implode of some kind
  • 00:46:17 <Denyerec> write, the, address, like, this
  • 00:46:22 <Denyerec> but omitting any empty fields.
  • 00:46:22 <danilobuerger> implode only works on arrays
  • 00:46:31 <Denyerec> Can text inputs feed into array elements ?
  • 00:46:42 <danilobuerger> you can be smart and create an array to implode :D
  • 00:46:55 <Denyerec> ah so the name of a field can't be myArray[0]
  • 00:46:56 <danilobuerger> <f:alias to create the array, and v:iterator.implode to implode
  • 00:48:31 <Denyerec> The documentation for f:alias on typo3.org doesn't really help much.
  • 00:49:52 <Denyerec> http://www.typo3lexikon.de/typo3-tutorials/extensions/fluid/fluid-dokumentation.html
  • 00:49:55 <Denyerec> This is a bit more like it
  • 00:50:03 <danilobuerger> <f:alias map="{bla: {0: settings.address1, 1: settings.bla}}"> {bla -> v:iterator.implode() } </f:alias>
  • 00:50:06 <danilobuerger> something like that
  • 00:52:45 <Denyerec> So whatever you want to do with the alias has to be between the alias tags ?
  • 00:53:33 <danilobuerger> yes
  • 00:53:41 <danilobuerger> better for scoping than v:var.set
  • 00:53:51 <danilobuerger> v:var.set leaks (on purpose)
  • 00:53:55 <Denyerec> Quite
  • 00:54:07 <Denyerec> so the content is chained implicitly
  • 00:54:13 <danilobuerger> no
  • 00:54:19 <danilobuerger> f:alias just puts them in the array
  • 00:54:23 <Denyerec> but I can do myVar -> v:iterator.implode(glue:',')
  • 00:54:26 <danilobuerger> yes
  • 00:54:45 <Denyerec> What I mean is I dont' define content in the implode params list
  • 00:55:04 <Denyerec> , is probably the default glue ;)
  • 00:55:08 * Denyerec bets the farm on it
  • 00:56:06 <danilobuerger> yes
  • 00:56:09 <danilobuerger> , is default
  • 00:56:38 <Denyerec> https://gist.github.com/Denyerec/724c333a32ec00ec71e2#file-gistfile1-txt-L24-L36
  • 00:56:44 <Denyerec> That is throwing
  • 00:56:51 <Denyerec> The argument "map" was registered with type "array", but is of type "string"
  • 00:57:05 <danilobuerger> that means something inside map went wrong
  • 00:57:26 <Denyerec> How critical is whitespace ?
  • 00:57:30 <Denyerec> I know it can cause big problems in some places.
  • 00:57:50 <danilobuerger> shouldnt matter
  • 00:58:03 <danilobuerger> try using '{settings.address1}' instead
  • 00:58:09 <danilobuerger> inside the maps
  • 00:59:47 <Denyerec> Hmm
  • 01:00:52 <Denyerec> https://gist.github.com/Denyerec/724c333a32ec00ec71e2
  • 01:00:53 <Denyerec> Nope :/
  • 01:00:57 <Denyerec> I can't spot the mistake.
  • 01:01:08 <Denyerec> Oh yes I can
  • 01:01:11 <Denyerec> I think I need another }
  • 01:01:22 <danilobuerger> yes
  • 01:02:30 <Denyerec> http://denyerec.co.uk/stuff/.screencaps/2014-04-01_00-02-26.png
  • 01:02:36 <Denyerec> Nearly...
  • 01:03:42 <danilobuerger> do <f:debug>{_all}</f:debug> inside the alias
  • 01:04:39 <Denyerec> Aye
  • 01:04:43 <Denyerec> address is populated
  • 01:04:58 <danilobuerger> try only {address}
  • 01:05:01 <Denyerec> but for some reason it's just echoed the {} 's as a literal
  • 01:05:28 <Denyerec> Array
  • 01:06:31 <danilobuerger> {address -> v:iterator.implode()}
  • 01:07:03 <Denyerec> Whitespace matters
  • 01:07:04 <Denyerec> it seems
  • 01:08:09 <Denyerec> Ok so the implode renders stuff,,stuff if there is an empty item.
  • 01:08:32 <Denyerec> So I guess I either need a for with an IF
  • 01:08:40 <Denyerec> or IFs in the map
  • 01:08:45 <Denyerec> or a loop with an IF
  • 01:08:49 <Denyerec> ... :)
  • 01:08:57 <Denyerec> Unless there's a clever thing somewhere in there to drop sparse elements
  • 01:09:34 <danilobuerger> it does?
  • 01:11:17 <danilobuerger> ah true
  • 01:11:23 <danilobuerger> sorry then
  • 01:12:11 <Denyerec> It's OK
  • 01:12:13 <Denyerec> good to learn
  • 01:12:19 <Denyerec> I;ll leave the map and implode in place.
  • 01:33:51 <Denyerec> danilobuerger if you're there, one last Q
  • 01:33:58 <Denyerec> to render the content element out...
  • 01:35:03 <Denyerec> just v:content.render contentUids="xxx" />
  • 01:35:28 <danilobuerger> yes
  • 01:54:41 <Denyerec> Man
  • 01:54:44 <Denyerec> This rocks,
  • 01:54:48 <Denyerec> Already I hate the idea of TV
  • 01:54:56 <danilobuerger> :D
  • 01:54:58 <danilobuerger> good for you
  • 02:34:06 <Denyerec> Do we still need config.baseurl ?
  • 02:34:25 <danilobuerger> well, i use it others dont
  • 02:34:28 <danilobuerger> your choice
  • 02:40:10 <Denyerec> Hmm. It's been so long since I re-installed realUrl I can't remember why I'm seeing /5/ instead of /pagetitle/
  • 02:40:59 <Denyerec> Ahh I think I need to turn on autoconf
  • 02:42:22 <Denyerec> Hmm, no thta's not it
  • 02:45:17 <Denyerec> Hmm.
  • 02:45:22 <Denyerec> Copy in the .htaccess
  • 02:45:25 <Denyerec> set the base url
  • 02:45:29 <Denyerec> turn off simulate static
  • 02:46:22 <Denyerec> AHhh
  • 02:46:24 <Denyerec> Domain record in root
  • 02:56:49 <Denyerec> Ahh
  • 02:56:49 <Denyerec> no
  • 02:56:50 <Denyerec> :/
  • 02:56:52 <Denyerec> something's wrong
  • 02:56:52 <Denyerec> Request exceeded the limit of 10 internal redirects
  • 03:08:05 <Denyerec> ahh rerite base
  • 03:27:47 <Denyerec> Right
  • 03:27:50 <Denyerec> Almost bedtime!
  • 03:45:41 <Denyerec> super longshot - danilobuerger are you there ?
  • 06:10:07 <randomresult> morning
  • 06:21:10 <bjo3rn> morning :S
  • 06:21:30 <bjo3rn> I see the dads are already up and running ;)
  • 06:24:28 <bjo3rn> randomresult how's it going?
  • 06:24:39 <randomresult> :)
  • 06:25:12 <randomresult> good. Son still asleep - espresso next to me ... reading... no one around - great !
  • 06:25:19 <randomresult> you?
  • 06:25:38 <bjo3rn> same here. need to keep as calm as possible to keep the situation.
  • 06:25:54 <bjo3rn> wife already left, daughter (still) asleep
  • 06:26:37 <randomresult> :)
  • 06:27:05 <randomresult> good luck!
  • 06:33:27 <bjo3rn> nice April joke: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Kabelverstopfung-Telekom-aendert-Strategie-gegen-Skin-Effekt-2157959.html
  • 06:36:07 <randomresult> hre Uploadraten zu erhöhen, um beim Freispülen der Leitungen zu helfen. Mittel der Wahl dürfte dabei Bittorrent werden, arbeitet das Protokoll doch besonders effektiv gegen den Skin-Effekt.
  • 06:36:25 <randomresult> hell yeah. i would love to speedup my upload
  • 06:36:41 <randomresult> ok. thanx for the hint... prepare to get fooled today.
  • 06:37:00 <randomresult> pease seed
  • 07:28:11 <Outdoorsman> randomresults For someone who knows nothing about fluid yet, is there anything I can do to help on the fluidbootstraptheme extension? This is very important to me to have going as soon as possible. I have a rather large project that I'd like to release with it in about 2 weeks.
  • 07:29:32 <Outdoorsman> Sadly there's not really any stable bootstrap anything right now for 6.2.
  • 07:34:37 <artisticMink> Good morning, i have an issue, with the v:media.image.height View Helper with vhs 1.8.2. I prepared a pastebin with further information: http://pastebin.com/JS4fSaej
  • 08:29:21 <mrboe> hello
  • 08:43:28 <bjo3rn> hello y'all
  • 08:43:51 <bjo3rn> artisticMink try with <v:media.image.height path="{file}"/>
  • 08:43:57 <bjo3rn> no need for the uri part
  • 08:45:31 <artisticMink> Didnt know it could work with a file id. Thanks. However, it triggers pastebins line 8 to 10 As if the content does not get parsed. But i cant imagine that. I probably have a syntax error somewhere.
  • 08:45:44 <bjo3rn> ah, file id as in fal?
  • 08:46:25 <artisticMink> Ah, i see. Yes, i'll get a file id. Thats why i use the uri view helper.
  • 08:47:25 <bjo3rn> ok, that's why.
  • 08:47:57 <bjo3rn> the viewhelper expects a relative or absolute path, no url
  • 08:48:54 <bjo3rn> I have no experience with fal whatsoever unfortunately (yet).
  • 08:51:56 <artisticMink> The uri view helper returns a relative path. media.image.height for example should add the server path which would result in a absolute path that is valid. Thats what causes me headaches.
  • 08:52:28 <tom_at> good morning guys
  • 08:52:29 <tom_at> i have a problem with a FAL field for multiple images, here my field: <flux:field.inline.fal name="images" label="{v:l(key:'flux.fce.sheet.images')}" maxItems="100" multiple="true" allowedExtensions="jpg,jpeg,png,gif,pdf" />
  • 08:52:34 <tom_at> when i upload a couple images all of them are correctly uploaded but only 3 added to the field. is my field configuration missing something or is this a FAL bug?
  • 08:52:37 <artisticMink> /my/hosting/path/xxx/xxx.xxx.xx/fileadmin/proper/path/to/file.png should be the result of <v:media.image.height path="{imgUri}" />
  • 08:52:55 <artisticMink> Oh well, not the result. But the path the view helper works with.
  • 08:53:17 <bjo3rn> artisticMink the path is determined using \TYPO3\CMS\Core\Utility\GeneralUtility::getFileAbsFileName($path) which seems to fail here.
  • 08:56:34 <bjo3rn> artisticMink confirmed. I'll create a fix.
  • 08:56:47 <bjo3rn> tom_at this is danilobuerger country ;)
  • 08:58:24 <artisticMink> bjo3rn: So its actually a bug instead of my stupidity? Oh my, i'm almost relieved. I should've probably started debugging the core functions earlier. Also thanks for the extra work.
  • 09:00:31 <bjo3rn> well, I'd actually not call it a bug. /fileadmin/bla/file.ext is not a relative path but a relative url. we need a path relative to the site root or an absolute one. I'm sure there's a way to get that from a fal entity.
  • 09:02:01 <artisticMink> bjo3rn: Alright, i think i got you.
  • 09:03:10 <bjo3rn> what do you get with {image.originalResource.publicUrl} ?
  • 09:03:52 <bjo3rn> or maybe do a <f:debug>{image.originalResource}</f:debug>
  • 09:07:02 <artisticMink> I'll test it. May take a minute or two.
  • 09:11:10 <artisticMink> Oh well. I just noticed that, in the end of 2013, the v:media.image was added and this thing solves all my problems. Do you still need the above information?
  • 09:11:35 <bjo3rn> no, if you're fine with that one all is good ;)
  • 09:12:00 <artisticMink> I'm perfectly fine. Thanks for the help.
  • 09:12:09 <bjo3rn> yw :)
  • 10:05:07 <alexanderdick> good monining guys. someone here?
  • 10:05:16 <alexanderdick> *morning
  • 10:07:44 <BenjaminR> hi alexanderdick - we are here - waiting for your questions :)
  • 10:08:47 <mrboe> btw were is Denyerec
  • 10:08:53 <mrboe> so quit here
  • 10:09:02 <BenjaminR> where is randomresult :)
  • 10:09:32 <alexanderdick> I have a problem with <flux:field.inline.fal /> - when I add multiple images to that field in the default language and I afterwards translate that record, none of those images are available in the translated record. I just don't see them.
  • 10:09:34 <randomresult> hehe
  • 10:09:35 <mrboe> @randomresult is calling chantal
  • 10:09:46 <randomresult> no mrboe im not
  • 10:10:47 <BenjaminR> alexanderdick: you could show me your template for some common mistakes - if i dont see anything this is a question for danilobuerger :)
  • 10:12:22 <alexanderdick> https://gist.github.com/adick/0e8abaf35015762bd934
  • 10:13:06 <alexanderdick> that's the relevant part
  • 10:13:31 <alexanderdick> I've also played with localizationMode etc. with no luck
  • 10:21:23 <alexanderdick> with showPossibleLocalizationRecords I see "some" records (for example 1 image instead of 3) greyed out, which I can't translate
  • 10:21:36 <BenjaminR> sorry been away a sec
  • 10:22:08 <BenjaminR> how do you read the relations?
  • 10:23:03 <alexanderdick> I mean the backend
  • 10:23:10 <BenjaminR> Ah!
  • 10:23:11 <alexanderdick> translating the record
  • 10:23:53 <BenjaminR> yap - got ot :)
  • 10:23:57 <ad_on_is> hellou
  • 10:24:29 <ad_on_is> i'm having problems with wizard-tabs on 6.2 and flux 7.0
  • 10:24:59 <ad_on_is> it happens that the wizzard-tab sometimes disappears for FCE elements that i define for fluidcontent
  • 10:25:59 <BenjaminR> alexanderdick: i would have hoped showPossibleLocalizationRecords works out. if not give showAllLocalizationLink a try.
  • 10:27:24 <BenjaminR> i could imagine that a relation is not "translated". the relation is between two records - which me not be in origignal language
  • 10:27:30 <alexanderdick> I added it. No link shows up.
  • 10:27:42 <alexanderdick> I'm using TER version 7.0 of lux.
  • 10:27:47 <BenjaminR> last but not least: showSynchronizationLink
  • 10:27:47 <alexanderdick> Should I use current master?
  • 10:28:14 <BenjaminR> i dont think there were recent changes on it
  • 10:28:33 <alexanderdick> I'm also under the impression that this version is up to date
  • 10:28:50 <BenjaminR> ter 7.0 is 8 days old i think :)
  • 10:29:16 <BenjaminR> there where relevant changes for copy paste of content elements.. but nothing for fal
  • 10:29:41 <alexanderdick> ok
  • 10:33:30 <alexanderdick> showSynchronizationLink - does also not show up at all
  • 10:34:05 <BenjaminR> so its danilobuerger who might be able to help
  • 10:38:28 <alexanderdick> ok then I have to wait for him :)
  • 10:49:29 <alexanderdick> maybe it has not even something to do with the FalViewHelper but AbstractInlineFieldViewHelper
  • 10:57:30 <adi77> Hi, I followed this instructions http://fluidtypo3.org/documentation/templating-manual/appendix/migration/from-flux-6x.html to upgrade to flux 7. Now I get the following error: Fatal error: Class 'FluidTYPO3\Flux\Core' not found in /Users/bootstrap_package/htdocs/typo3conf/ext/fluidcontent/ext_localconf.php on line 17. What did I miss?
  • 11:04:57 <BenjaminR> adi77: flux 7 installed? cache cleared? typo3temp emptied? cf_* tables cleared :)
  • 11:09:31 <adi77> Yes. I took the extensions flux fluidcontent fluidcontent_bootstrap and fluidpages from the master branch of namelesscoder's repo.
  • 11:09:54 <randomresult> adi77 i would take the branches from FluidTypo3
  • 11:09:58 <randomresult> not NamelessCoder
  • 11:10:13 <randomresult> https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/
  • 11:15:01 <soee> https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/fluidpages/issues/153
  • 11:15:54 <adi77> Okay. Got the exts from fluidtypo3. Now i get the error The requested page didn't have a proper connection to the tree-root!
  • 11:27:28 <xaver> anyway to get rid of the "new" Text RTE field in my custom elements?
  • 11:28:13 <mrboe> update to 6.2
  • 11:28:27 <randomresult> short and simple
  • 11:33:09 <BenjaminR> that is really no solution :)
  • 11:35:15 <randomresult> we never managed to get rid of this field.
  • 11:37:07 <ad_on_is> i followed the upgrade instructions, now i'm getting the following error: "Could not analyse class:FluidTYPO3\VHS\ViewHelpers\Extension\Path\ResourcesViewHelper maybe not loaded or no autoloader?"
  • 11:37:40 <BenjaminR> wrong Namespace defined in template for vhs?
  • 11:38:24 <BenjaminR> {namespace v=Tx_Vhs_ViewHelpers}
  • 11:38:53 <xaver> mrboe: blind sry
  • 11:38:55 <alexanderdick> this looks like the wrong namespace yes ;)
  • 11:39:23 <ad_on_is> shouldn't i use {namespace v=FluidTYPO3\VHS\ViewHelpers}
  • 11:39:32 <BenjaminR> you shouldnt
  • 11:39:48 <ad_on_is> aaaaah ok...
  • 11:39:53 <BenjaminR> Vhs doesnt use namespaces yet
  • 11:40:02 <ad_on_is> aaaah ok.. my mistake :D
  • 11:41:26 <xaver> another small question. The Customer has a lot of settings like Google Analytics code and Copyright stuff. Where do i put the fields - 1 place to handel all that stuff, Template settings available in subpages and not editable
  • 11:41:49 <BenjaminR> constants?
  • 11:42:09 <mrboe> @xaver randomresult and me tried a lot - we recreated our extension with only very simple elements in there to find out if there is any mistake from our side. but we find nothing
  • 11:44:06 <xaver> i tried to use normal page settings - but failed - it is inherit, but sometimes saved for this page
  • 11:44:15 <ad_on_is> great! migration went well... buut
  • 11:44:24 <ad_on_is> i'm still having issues with wizzard-tab and fluidcontent
  • 11:45:20 <ad_on_is> keeps disappearing ...
  • 11:45:49 <ad_on_is> i've read on github, that the issue should be fixed
  • 11:47:37 <BenjaminR> whichone?
  • 11:49:46 <ad_on_is> https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/fluidcontent/issues/127
  • 11:50:07 <BenjaminR> Ah i guess i know it :)
  • 11:50:15 <BenjaminR> go to install tool > db > compare db
  • 11:52:28 <ad_on_is> ALTER TABLE cf_extbase_datamapfactory_datamap RENAME zzz_deleted_cf_extbase_datamapfactory_datamap;
  • 11:52:28 <ad_on_is> Records in table: 6
  • 11:52:28 <ad_on_is> ALTER TABLE cf_extbase_datamapfactory_datamap_tags RENAME zzz_deleted_cf_extbase_datamapfactory_datamap_tags;
  • 11:52:52 <danilobuerger> tom_at still need help with your fal issue or did you solve it?
  • 11:53:51 <adi77> Do I have to modify something on the page tree after upgrading flux fluid_content and fluid_pages? Can't get rid of this error: The requested page didn't have a proper connection to the tree-root!
  • 11:54:12 <BenjaminR> danilobuerger: alexanderdick asked for help on translations for fal
  • 11:54:46 <danilobuerger> no idea never tried
  • 11:56:44 <ad_on_is> @BenjaminR, i can reproduce the issue with the wizzard-tab
  • 11:57:01 <ad_on_is> 1. install-tool -> important actions -> clear all caches
  • 11:57:06 <ad_on_is> 2. FCE tab works as expected
  • 11:57:11 <NamelessCoder> xaver google-analytics is on every page so you should aim for the least impact: TS-defined VHS asset with "type" and "content" properties, optionally set to "standalone"
  • 11:57:32 <ad_on_is> 3. add new html-file in fce directory -> new entry in fce-tab is not displayed
  • 11:57:37 <ad_on_is> 4. clear genearal caches
  • 11:57:45 <ad_on_is> 5. no FCE wizzard tab
  • 11:58:00 <NamelessCoder> adi77 check your install tool; the DB will need updates for your "pages" table.
  • 11:58:53 <xaver> NamelessCoder: thx
  • 11:59:25 <Denyerec> mornin guys
  • 12:00:03 <NamelessCoder> ad_on_is FCE definitions are cached in dedicated cache tables: they are not created automatically if you pull from git. Install tool should create the tables in the "cf_" scope and upon first rendering of either page module, record editing (tt_content) or frontend display, the FCE definitions should rebuild and become used by the new content wizard.
  • 12:00:10 <ad_on_is> step 3. can be skipped
  • 12:00:33 <xaver> TS is not so nice for the customer and SEO-....... Same for copyight stuff
  • 12:00:46 <NamelessCoder> xaver true, but for google-analytics it is ;)
  • 12:01:37 <xaver> ok and datalayer via flux :)
  • 12:01:40 <ad_on_is> @NamelessCoder looks like they don't get rebuild
  • 12:02:53 <NamelessCoder> ad_on_is in that case, enable flux debug and it shoud tell you more on first page load after clearing the cache (messages accumulate as session flashmessages)
  • 12:04:21 <Denyerec> [00:54] <Denyerec> This rocks,
  • 12:04:21 <Denyerec> [00:54] <Denyerec> Already I hate the idea of TV
  • 12:04:29 <Denyerec> (Just fyi ;))
  • 12:04:32 <NamelessCoder> definitions are built as follows: 1) all TS templates detected, 2) those templates parsed on each page that has a template, root or not, 3) pageTSconfig conditional "if page is in rootline" statements are built and cached, 4) this pageTSconfig is thawed from cache and used in new content wizard and "Fluid content type" selector. Rebuilding triggers from the ConfigurationService in Fluidcontent
  • 12:05:16 <NamelessCoder> as such, the fluidcontent cache table should contain ONE record
  • 12:05:41 <NamelessCoder> is your site HUGE re: TS setup...? 100's of TS templates?
  • 12:07:39 <ad_on_is> no it's not a huge site
  • 12:08:16 <ad_on_is> with typo3 6.17 and previous version of fluidcontent everything worked fine
  • 12:08:21 <Denyerec> Anyone any clues how to stop the rendering of a header via content.render ?
  • 12:08:36 <Denyerec> Or is that a CSC issue >
  • 12:10:27 <ad_on_is> cf_fluidcontent has exactly ONE record
  • 12:10:32 <danilobuerger> Denyerec use fluidcontent_core ;)
  • 12:10:42 <Denyerec> no, not yet :P
  • 12:10:57 <alexanderdick> hi again. regarding my translation issue with the FalViewHelper I made an interesting discovery
  • 12:11:20 <Denyerec> I could have sworn there used to be "display heading" tickbox
  • 12:11:26 <alexanderdick> when I add an image to the media field of a page, the image is not visible in the page translation
  • 12:11:37 <Denyerec> you see my issue is that in the BE, the Heading kinda tells the editor what the content elemenet is
  • 12:11:41 <Denyerec> is you leave it empty, they have no idea
  • 12:11:51 <Denyerec> well, less of an idea as I did do a preview
  • 12:12:31 <alexanderdick> so the FalViewHelper issue may have something to do with that
  • 12:12:42 <alexanderdick> can that be a general bug of 6.2 ?
  • 12:12:49 <alexanderdick> would be pretty severe
  • 12:13:48 <Denyerec> rebooting.
  • 12:15:08 <danilobuerger> alexanderdick in theory it should be localizable because "media" attribute is part of pages_language_overlay
  • 12:15:19 <danilobuerger> but as you suggested this could be a bug with 6.2
  • 12:16:02 <alexanderdick> can you test it on a site of yours?
  • 12:16:23 <alexanderdick> the field is visible in the localized page record
  • 12:16:30 <alexanderdick> but no images
  • 12:16:56 <alexanderdick> normally I would have to localize each image manually but nothing's there
  • 12:17:11 <soee> can i deisable the default layouts provided by fluidpages ?
  • 12:17:39 <danilobuerger> alexanderdick i dont have a test setup with multi lang at the moment, i can test tomorrow or so
  • 12:18:02 <alexanderdick> that would be great
  • 12:18:57 <NamelessCoder> danilobuerger alexanderdick I'm not sure about this but... maybe the problem is in the way we use page data to resolve the records. Maybe we need to manually apply the page overlay?
  • 12:19:22 <danilobuerger> NamelessCoder the page media field has nothing to do with us...
  • 12:19:40 <alexanderdick> first it has to work in the core :D
  • 12:19:58 <alexanderdick> BUT it is working with the default "images" content element
  • 12:20:06 <alexanderdick> there the translations work as expected
  • 12:20:25 <alexanderdick> in my fluidcontent element with the fal field the translation does not work as expected
  • 12:20:32 <NamelessCoder> using CSC I assume
  • 12:20:41 <alexanderdick> yes
  • 12:20:45 <NamelessCoder> then there is a difference
  • 12:20:59 <alexanderdick> the default element is the csc element
  • 12:21:03 <NamelessCoder> first of all, CSC uses a TCA field with a lot of added setup
  • 12:21:19 <danilobuerger> NamelessCoder alexanderdick alright i found a multi lang setup... i can reproduce this with typo core.. media in pages doesnt get properly localized
  • 12:21:40 <alexanderdick> thx! great bug in new 6.2 LTS
  • 12:21:40 <NamelessCoder> second, CSC selects these records using the cObject which we don't (as in: that cObject may be applying the overlay)
  • 12:21:59 <NamelessCoder> aaah fudge danilobuerger :(
  • 12:22:16 <danilobuerger> seems to be a core issue for now...
  • 12:22:33 <NamelessCoder> yeah - that field is as plain a FAL field as you get
  • 12:22:38 <alexanderdick> so the media field localization == fal field localization
  • 12:23:19 <alexanderdick> same issue
  • 12:23:21 <alexanderdick> ?
  • 12:23:36 <NamelessCoder> this could be in FAL (when selecting records based on page) and it could be in the page overlay (not being able to overlay this field or ignoring it for some reason)
  • 12:23:53 <randomresult> hi
  • 12:23:59 <NamelessCoder> since we have the issue in fluidcontent this points to a problem in FAL when selecting records :/
  • 12:24:19 <alexanderdick> should I open an issue in the core bug tracker?
  • 12:24:26 <danilobuerger> yes
  • 12:24:27 <alexanderdick> not sure what to do at the moment
  • 12:24:48 <NamelessCoder> open issue, drop us a link here
  • 12:24:55 <alexanderdick> kk
  • 12:24:58 <NamelessCoder> if we can provide additional info we will ;)
  • 12:26:53 <alexanderdick> what category could this belong to? TCEforms? Backend user interface?
  • 12:27:04 <alexanderdick> FAL?
  • 12:32:00 <alexanderdick> I chose Localization ;)
  • 12:32:08 <alexanderdick> here's the link http://forge.typo3.org/issues/57488
  • 12:32:42 <NamelessCoder> I think localization dudes have the best knowledge how to fix :)
  • 12:32:43 <NamelessCoder> thanks!
  • 12:33:02 <alexanderdick> hope this will be fixed soon
  • 12:33:17 <alexanderdick> guess i'm not the only one who needs that
  • 12:34:04 <alexanderdick> @danilobuerger
  • 12:34:16 <alexanderdick> mhh
  • 12:34:36 <alexanderdick> how can I mention someone in this chat?
  • 12:34:42 <NamelessCoder> you just did ;)
  • 12:35:09 <alexanderdick> can you also reproduce this one? http://forge.typo3.org/issues/57472
  • 12:35:34 <alexanderdick> occurs also in the media field
  • 12:37:49 <randomresult> @NamelessCoder we should vote all!
  • 12:37:52 <randomresult> how can i?
  • 12:38:54 <alexanderdick> you have to login with your typo3.org account
  • 12:40:10 <NamelessCoder> can only vote and comment on what I can reproduce ;)
  • 12:40:35 <danilobuerger> NamelessCoder then reproduce it ;-), or transitively trust me ;-)
  • 12:40:57 <randomresult> NamelessCoder you voted already dont u ?
  • 12:41:29 <danilobuerger> randomresult yeah he did
  • 12:41:31 <danilobuerger> :-)
  • 12:42:06 <randomresult> so seems that he trusts you
  • 12:43:20 <danilobuerger> nah i think he reproduced it ;)
  • 12:43:52 <alexanderdick> hope that 6.2.1 comes soon with this issues fixed
  • 12:44:06 <danilobuerger> well they have a lot to fix in the fal area...
  • 12:44:08 <alexanderdick> otherwise I can't translate a page
  • 12:45:36 <randomresult> did u look at the git?
  • 12:45:50 <randomresult> maybe its fixed already?
  • 12:46:17 <danilobuerger> randomresult i went through git yesterday on another fal bug... nothing was there regarding git
  • 12:46:24 <danilobuerger> but it might be worth a shot anyway
  • 12:46:51 <randomresult> hehe... regarding git ... nice one!
  • 12:47:06 <danilobuerger> ahh regarding fal ;)
  • 12:47:13 <danilobuerger> not enough coffee yet
  • 12:47:22 <randomresult> go get some
  • 12:47:28 <randomresult> i just had one
  • 12:47:36 <danilobuerger> Denyerec kept me up all night here
  • 12:47:41 <randomresult> i saw it
  • 12:47:59 <randomresult> maybe i go and view that video of NamelessCoder again... that one wakes u up
  • 12:50:21 <randomresult> this cant be realtime
  • 12:50:25 <soee> do i have to configure PAGE object to get content from fluidpages ?
  • 12:50:39 <NamelessCoder> don't be fooled randomresult - all pauses are cut out
  • 12:50:53 <NamelessCoder> and many parts done twice ;)
  • 12:50:58 <randomresult> anyway. looks like on christal
  • 12:51:04 <randomresult> ah
  • 12:51:09 <randomresult> it is on christal!
  • 12:51:17 <NamelessCoder> I am not *that* flawless when typing ;)
  • 12:52:22 <NamelessCoder> and there's a lot of muscle memory in those method names - and I use autocompletion. So I do cheat a bit ;)
  • 12:53:02 <randomresult> anyway. make me smile when watching. carnifex in the background rounds it up
  • 12:54:05 <NamelessCoder> that's what I was listening to while making it :)
  • 12:54:34 <randomresult> claus... i know
  • 12:54:40 <randomresult> i can see it!
  • 12:55:50 <randomresult> after that, i need a break!
  • 12:56:14 <randomresult> @NamelessCoder you still remember my little TS - Problem?
  • 12:56:25 <randomresult> i will remind you from time to time :)
  • 12:56:32 * randomresult is off for a break!
  • 13:22:05 <randomresult> @danilobuerger which version of fluidcontent_core u use in your environments? development branch?
  • 13:23:35 <danilobuerger> randomresult yes use only dev branch for fcc, nothing else is maintained atm
  • 13:23:57 <randomresult> just browsing this... still hello world in there right?
  • 13:24:20 <danilobuerger> not for the regular ones... just the obscure ones
  • 13:24:25 <danilobuerger> but you are welcome to change that :-)
  • 14:27:52 <randomresult> @NamelessCoder u there?
  • 14:58:08 <Denyerec> hey randomresult
  • 14:58:16 <randomresult> there he is!
  • 14:58:32 <randomresult> comon clap ...
  • 15:01:26 <alexander_dick> hi guys
  • 15:01:41 <BenjaminR> hi alexander
  • 15:02:04 <alexander_dick> is it possible to influence the ordering of the fluidcontent elements?
  • 15:02:06 <alexander_dick> http://i.imgur.com/HYLMHIe.jpg
  • 15:02:30 <alexander_dick> at the moment I do it via the filename ... 10-xyz.html, 20-xyz.html, ...
  • 15:02:51 <randomresult> which is no good idea
  • 15:02:56 <randomresult> never start using a number
  • 15:03:02 <alexander_dick> ;) i know
  • 15:03:13 <randomresult> replace it with a1
  • 15:03:14 <randomresult> a2
  • 15:03:16 <alexander_dick> it's not beautyful but it works
  • 15:03:16 <randomresult> a3
  • 15:03:36 <alexander_dick> is there any other way?
  • 15:03:43 <randomresult> not as far as i know
  • 15:03:52 <BenjaminR> nothing else right now (without garanty)
  • 15:03:53 <alexander_dick> a sorting argument on the <flux:form would be nice
  • 15:04:23 <BenjaminR> anyone is everytime welcome to create feature requests on github
  • 15:04:37 <randomresult> alexander_dick i will vote for it !
  • 15:04:47 <alexander_dick> alright
  • 15:04:56 <mrboe> searching for the uncache render
  • 15:04:56 <alexander_dick> third report/request today :D
  • 15:04:56 <randomresult> https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/flux/issues
  • 15:04:59 <BenjaminR> the best feedback is that from you - using the extensions in hunderts of use cases
  • 15:05:03 <mrboe> cant find it
  • 15:05:23 <mrboe> f:render.uncache or something like that
  • 15:05:34 <mrboe> was written in the chatt some days ago
  • 15:06:15 <alexander_dick> maybe @NamelessCoder knows what's best here
  • 15:06:57 <randomresult> normally, when i disapear, @NamelessCoder joins the converstation...
  • 15:07:01 <randomresult> just a sec
  • 15:07:13 <randomresult> worked?
  • 15:07:28 <randomresult> ;)
  • 15:08:41 <alexander_dick> lol
  • 15:09:14 * randomresult will grab another coffee now...
  • 15:11:11 <Denyerec> I thought of a feature yesterday
  • 15:11:14 <Denyerec> And can't remember what it was.
  • 15:11:45 <alexander_dick> https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/flux/issues/508
  • 15:12:27 <alexander_dick> looking forward to it! ;)
  • 15:13:05 <Denyerec> Dumb question
  • 15:13:12 <Denyerec> but how DO you create a feature request on Github?
  • 15:13:41 <BenjaminR> create an issue and prefix with [FEATURE]
  • 15:13:41 <randomresult> Denyerec creating an issue in the project ? [FEATURE] This is my feature
  • 15:13:47 <Denyerec> ahhh
  • 15:13:48 <Denyerec> an issue
  • 15:13:48 <Denyerec> OK
  • 15:14:26 <randomresult> name it with prefix [FEATURE / TASK / BUG / BUGFIX?]
  • 15:15:53 <Denyerec> Feels like i'm yelling ;)
  • 15:16:47 <randomresult> Denyerec you can add more than on sheet...
  • 15:17:27 <randomresult> Denyerec is that what you mean
  • 15:19:44 <Denyerec> Nah
  • 15:19:51 <Denyerec> you can add your own tabs to the Flux form
  • 15:19:53 <Denyerec> this I undertstand
  • 15:20:01 <Denyerec> but they all appear below "plugin options" on the "General" tab
  • 15:20:17 <Denyerec> I'm saying to shift the whole flux form to its own tab called <myLabel>
  • 15:21:30 <mrboe> so me again v:content.random.render does not change content until clear cache
  • 15:22:11 <mrboe> is there a way to uncache this
  • 15:28:15 <randomresult> doesnt v:render:uncache does that?
  • 15:28:34 <mrboe> v:content.random.render:uncache ??
  • 15:28:38 <NamelessCoder> https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/vhs/blob/development/Classes/ViewHelpers/Render/UncacheViewHelper.php still undocumented
  • 15:30:02 <mrboe> so i create a partial with the random in it - and render this unached
  • 15:30:48 <randomresult> * Uncaches partials. Use like ``f:render``.
  • 15:30:48 <randomresult> * The partial will then be rendered each time.
  • 15:36:41 <Denyerec> What do you guys use for a spam-proof contact form ?
  • 15:36:50 <Denyerec> I've been using sp_bettercontact which has great spam pickup
  • 15:36:58 <Denyerec> But wondered if there were any better / more modern ones
  • 15:47:02 <Denyerec> I'm a tad confused about menu params,
  • 15:47:02 <Denyerec> <v:page.menu entryLevel="1" levels="-1">
  • 15:47:38 <Denyerec> I have that, which I thought would show "subpages"
  • 15:47:56 <randomresult> and it doesnt?
  • 15:47:58 <Denyerec> I think locking the entrylevel is doing it
  • 15:48:42 <Denyerec> If you go here:
  • 15:48:42 <Denyerec> http://alba-dev.sozu.co.uk/what-we-treat/
  • 15:48:54 <Denyerec> You see it shows the subpages for the "what we treat" page
  • 15:48:58 <Denyerec> But if you click on Knee Pain
  • 15:49:02 <Denyerec> It renders the same level out
  • 15:49:09 <Denyerec> presumably because of the "entrylevel" param
  • 15:49:11 <Denyerec> I might knock that out
  • 15:49:17 <Denyerec> then it should take the contet level
  • 15:51:03 <randomresult> i have nearly all that pains...
  • 15:54:51 <Denyerec> hhe
  • 15:54:56 <Denyerec> Well my only pain is now I've nuked the menu
  • 15:55:05 <Denyerec> I just wanted subpages of the current page
  • 15:55:15 <Denyerec> <v:page.menu entryLevel="-1" levels="1">
  • 15:55:23 <Denyerec> But now I see now menu at all :)
  • 16:01:28 <BenjaminR> Denyerec ?! :)
  • 16:01:51 <Denyerec> I just wanted subpages of the current page
  • 16:01:55 <BenjaminR> entryLevel="1" levels="2" expand="ALL"
  • 16:02:07 <BenjaminR> oh expand attribut is called different
  • 16:02:12 <Denyerec> I thought you had to have -ve entrylevel for relative menus ?
  • 16:02:26 <NamelessCoder> expandAll="TRUE"
  • 16:02:27 <BenjaminR> you need a relative menu?
  • 16:02:42 <BenjaminR> Thanks NamelessCoder ;)
  • 16:03:23 <NamelessCoder> expandAll=TRUE and BAM! sitemap.
  • 16:05:49 <Denyerec> Yeah
  • 16:05:57 <Denyerec> just need a menu of the subpages of th current page
  • 16:06:11 <Denyerec> i thought that would be entrylevel -1
  • 16:06:15 <Denyerec> levels 1
  • 16:06:19 <Denyerec> but that renders nothing
  • 16:09:18 <NamelessCoder> <v:page.menu />
  • 16:09:40 <NamelessCoder> that wasn't a joke btw
  • 16:10:11 <randomresult> too simple...
  • 16:15:04 <xaver> i updated the preview web to 6.2 from flux 7.0-dev and so on - afterwards all content elements are outsite the cloumngird and also inside the column -if i deleete one the other is gone - what did i miss?
  • 16:16:03 <NamelessCoder> xaver you allowed tt_content.colPos to be ALTER'ed to unsigned int without first running Flux's upgrade script
  • 16:16:23 <NamelessCoder> ...and the only way to recover is DB backup restore
  • 16:16:47 <xaver> NamelessCoder: THX
  • 16:19:52 <Denyerec> claus menu with no params renders my top level pages
  • 16:19:54 <Denyerec> nothing more :/
  • 16:20:52 <Denyerec> https://gist.github.com/Denyerec/41f3714e66264c04d064
  • 16:22:57 <NamelessCoder> if you are in a content element: <v:page.menu pageUid="{record.pid}" />
  • 16:27:05 <Denyerec> I'm in a Partial
  • 16:27:09 <Denyerec> Does that make a difference?
  • 16:27:21 <Denyerec> perhaps I have to pass something to the partial
  • 16:27:22 <Denyerec> OOoh!!
  • 16:27:24 <Denyerec> that could be it
  • 16:27:27 <Denyerec> Arguments
  • 16:27:39 <Denyerec> <f:render partial="PageObjects" section="PageNavigation" arguments="{page:page}"/>
  • 16:27:40 <Denyerec> Tnats
  • 16:27:49 <Denyerec> That's how I called the partial.
  • 16:28:26 <Denyerec> hmm
  • 16:28:26 <Denyerec> no
  • 16:28:32 <Denyerec> {_all} didnd't improve the situation either.
  • 16:29:05 <Denyerec> You'll have trouble with your cache benjaminr if all you changed was case... ;)
  • 16:29:45 <benjaminr> System is shut down - no cache involved
  • 16:29:58 <Denyerec> (I was on about your IRC nick, but no matter ;))
  • 16:30:07 <benjaminr> me too ^^
  • 16:30:10 <Denyerec> hah
  • 16:30:15 <benjaminr> This is just auto responder ^^
  • 16:30:16 <Denyerec> This blasted menu
  • 16:30:26 <Denyerec> I've got this:
  • 16:30:29 <Denyerec> Sod it, I'll gist it
  • 16:31:43 <Denyerec> https://gist.github.com/Denyerec/41f3714e66264c04d064
  • 16:33:21 <danilobuerger> lol @ "sod it"
  • 16:33:27 <danilobuerger> you english people ;)
  • 16:34:24 <Denyerec> :)
  • 16:34:34 <Denyerec> It just seems determined to render the top level page items
  • 16:34:57 <danilobuerger> thats the correct behavior if you manually render
  • 16:35:34 <Denyerec> So how do I get "subpages of current page" ?
  • 16:35:37 * Denyerec is really confused now
  • 16:35:46 <Denyerec> All of a sudden I'm yearning for a TMENU ;)
  • 16:36:00 <danilobuerger> well use auto render
  • 16:36:13 <danilobuerger> <v:page.menu pageUid="{record.pid}" />
  • 16:36:35 <Denyerec> Connnfuuuusion.
  • 16:36:40 <danilobuerger> why?
  • 16:36:41 <Denyerec> Was I supposed to figure that out? :)
  • 16:37:32 <danilobuerger> its not documented very welll... if you have nothing inside v:page.menu then its auto render... which will do levels as you specify by "levels"
  • 16:37:42 <danilobuerger> https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/vhs/blob/master/Classes/ViewHelpers/Page/Menu/AbstractMenuViewHelper.php
  • 16:37:42 <Denyerec> Hmm
  • 16:37:45 <Denyerec> that's not done it either
  • 16:37:46 <danilobuerger> take a look at the options
  • 16:37:58 <Denyerec> it's still just rendering the top level pages.
  • 16:38:00 <danilobuerger> <v:page.menu pageUid="{record.pid}" levels="3" expandAll="1"/>
  • 16:38:02 <danilobuerger> try that
  • 16:38:19 <Denyerec> wait now it's doing siblins
  • 16:38:47 <danilobuerger> thats because of expandAll
  • 16:39:38 <danilobuerger> look at http://fluidtypo3.org/viewhelpers/vhs/master/Page/MenuViewHelper.html for all options
  • 16:40:00 <Denyerec> yeah that's what I was looking at when I was trying entryLevle
  • 16:40:04 <Denyerec> as I remembered that from normal TS
  • 16:40:32 <danilobuerger> there is also entryLevel
  • 16:40:56 <Denyerec> Still it's rendering siblings.
  • 16:41:06 <danilobuerger> but the important thing to remember with v:page.menu is -> it will only auto render if you have nothing inside... other than that it will auto render
  • 16:41:11 <danilobuerger> what do you mean by siblings?
  • 16:41:23 <danilobuerger> it is supposed to render siblings of level 0
  • 16:41:38 <Denyerec> http://denyerec.co.uk/stuff/.screencaps/2014-04-01_15-41-34.png
  • 16:41:54 <Denyerec> If I am on the Knee Pain page, I want to see "Traumatic Onset" and "Non-Traumatic Onset" in the menu
  • 16:42:09 <Denyerec> instead, I am seeing "Knee Pain", "Back Pain", "Sports Injuries"
  • 16:42:38 <danilobuerger> ah
  • 16:42:44 <danilobuerger> did you set pageUid properly ?
  • 16:47:29 <Denyerec> https://gist.github.com/Denyerec/41f3714e66264c04d064
  • 16:47:47 <danilobuerger> ....
  • 16:47:49 <danilobuerger> seriously?
  • 16:47:57 <danilobuerger> USE <v:page.menu pageUid="{record.pid}" levels="3" expandAll="TRUE" />
  • 16:48:01 <danilobuerger> nothing in between
  • 16:50:29 <bjo3rn> I'd use {page.pid} instead of {record.pid} and set entryLevel=2, just my 2ct ;)
  • 16:53:26 <bjo3rn> strike that, especially the entryLevel. it's BS. :S
  • 16:53:59 <bjo3rn> unless...
  • 16:54:05 <bjo3rn> :p
  • 16:58:56 <Denyerec> This really should not be this challenging :S
  • 16:59:26 <Denyerec> danilobuerger - I need the manual control of the rendering, though.
  • 16:59:32 <Denyerec> I will try your snippet
  • 16:59:36 <Denyerec> but I do need to be able to alter the markup
  • 17:02:17 <Denyerec> ok
  • 17:02:17 <Denyerec> so
  • 17:02:21 <Denyerec> the autorendered menu is OK
  • 17:04:16 <Denyerec> wait no it's not
  • 17:04:19 <Denyerec> it's showing siblings as well.
  • 17:04:49 <Denyerec> <v:page.menu /> shows only top level pages.
  • 17:05:39 <Denyerec> is pid "parent id" or "page id"
  • 17:06:09 <bjo3rn> Denyerec you want the submenu of the current page, right?
  • 17:06:25 <Denyerec> Jep
  • 17:07:00 <bjo3rn> then I'd go for <v:page.menu entryLevel="2" />
  • 17:07:07 <Denyerec> But I need to be able to alter the markup
  • 17:07:08 <bjo3rn> no need to specify the pageUid then
  • 17:07:15 <bjo3rn> sure, use your code
  • 17:07:45 <Denyerec> I could have sworn I've tried this
  • 17:07:46 <Denyerec> :)
  • 17:07:50 <Denyerec> I've permuted almost everything by now!
  • 17:07:56 <bjo3rn> this was just to show the arguments to use
  • 17:08:01 <bjo3rn> hehe
  • 17:08:25 <Denyerec> WAHha
  • 17:08:28 <Denyerec> GNNGH
  • 17:08:30 <Denyerec> VVvvffffv
  • 17:08:31 <Denyerec> It works.
  • 17:08:36 <Denyerec> I am *certain* I did this
  • 17:08:46 <Denyerec> Maybe I tried entrylevel 2 before I passed {_all~} in
  • 17:08:47 <Denyerec> :/
  • 17:08:54 <bjo3rn> cool
  • 17:09:35 <Denyerec> should I pass {page} or {_all} to my partial ?
  • 17:09:36 <bjo3rn> sometimes you'll have to fiddle with entryLevel depending on the depth of your menu (at least I have to)
  • 17:09:49 <Denyerec> If I pass {page} then <v:page.link pageUid="{page.pid}" /> renders the current page link
  • 17:09:49 <alexander_dick> hello again :)
  • 17:09:54 <Denyerec> if I pass {_all} it renders the parent
  • 17:10:13 <bjo3rn> I tend to pass in as little as possible.
  • 17:10:25 <bjo3rn> or as narrow as possible
  • 17:10:34 <bjo3rn> so I'd go for page
  • 17:11:03 <Denyerec> Page breaks the parent link rendering.
  • 17:11:06 <alexander_dick> quick question: is it possible in a flexform to insert a normal text which is shown to the user?
  • 17:11:08 <bjo3rn> {page.pid} is the parent, {page.uid} the current
  • 17:11:18 <Denyerec> That's what I thought, but it's not what I see.
  • 17:11:20 <alexander_dick> like a hint inside a sheet
  • 17:11:25 <Denyerec> also this menu seems broken on some pages :/
  • 17:11:49 <bjo3rn> alexander_dick you can use the 'custom' viewhelper for that to insert html
  • 17:12:02 <alexander_dick> awesome thx!
  • 17:12:08 <bjo3rn> np
  • 17:12:22 <alexander_dick> i was looking in the documentation but apparently I was blind
  • 17:13:01 <alexander_dick> seems to happen from time to time ;)
  • 17:13:02 <bjo3rn> well, 'custom' is not too verbose naming I guess ;)
  • 17:13:20 <bjo3rn> plus it happens, yes ;)
  • 17:13:33 <bjo3rn> Denyerec broken on some pages? whaddayamean?
  • 17:13:49 <alexander_dick> maybe html would be a better name
  • 17:14:15 <bjo3rn> fx, yes
  • 17:14:23 <Denyerec> On my sub page, I see the subpages and I thought it was working
  • 17:14:26 <Denyerec> but if I go up a level
  • 17:14:32 <Denyerec> to a page that has 12 subpages
  • 17:14:35 <Denyerec> it renders no menu at all :/
  • 17:14:56 <Denyerec> might be caches
  • 17:14:57 <Denyerec> 1 mo
  • 17:15:04 <bjo3rn> chances are, yes
  • 17:15:21 <Denyerec> sadly not
  • 17:15:26 <Denyerec> unless i need to clear typo3temp again
  • 17:15:36 <bjo3rn> no.
  • 17:15:50 <bjo3rn> CMD+SHIFT+R (Chrome)?
  • 17:16:09 <bjo3rn> which page in the above tree (your screenshot)?
  • 17:16:52 <bjo3rn> using entryLevel you somwhat hardcode the depth of your menu ofc.
  • 17:17:34 <alexander_dick> I like it to insert random HTML in backend forms :)
  • 17:18:35 <bjo3rn> alexander_dick that's something else and not possible to my knowledge
  • 17:19:55 <alexander_dick> <flux:flexform.field.custom name="hint"><b>foo</b></flux:flexform.field.custom>
  • 17:19:58 <alexander_dick> working like a charm
  • 17:21:42 <bjo3rn> ehm, I think we talk past each other ;)
  • 17:22:17 <alexander_dick> :)
  • 17:24:28 <alexander_dick> I'm gonna insert a nice yellow warning box inside a content element if wrong settings are selected ;)
  • 17:28:45 <bjo3rn> Denyerec, sup?
  • 17:29:04 <Denyerec> Still broken.
  • 17:29:08 <bjo3rn> thrown the computer out of the window?
  • 17:29:24 <Denyerec> Tempted.
  • 17:29:29 <bjo3rn> on which page of the tree you posted above?
  • 17:29:49 <Denyerec> I am tempted to just render a tsObj :/
  • 17:29:55 <Denyerec> How is best to show you
  • 17:30:13 <Denyerec> http://denyerec.co.uk/stuff/.screencaps/2014-04-01_15-41-34.png
  • 17:30:14 <Denyerec> Ok
  • 17:30:18 <Denyerec> On the "What we treat" page
  • 17:30:19 <Denyerec> I see no menu
  • 17:30:28 <Denyerec> On the "Knee pain" page, I see a menu of subpages.
  • 17:31:08 <bjo3rn> if you set entryLevel="1" the treat page works?
  • 17:31:35 <Denyerec> https://gist.github.com/Denyerec/41f3714e66264c04d064
  • 17:32:19 <Denyerec> yeah,,, the entry level is hardcoding the enupoint as you suggest
  • 17:32:32 <bjo3rn> ok, then back to the original plan
  • 17:32:53 <bjo3rn> swap entryLevel with pageUid="{page.uid}"
  • 17:33:57 <Denyerec> Result
  • 17:34:11 <Denyerec> I owe this channel so many beers
  • 17:34:26 <bjo3rn> so it's working?
  • 17:34:27 <Denyerec> I tihnk when I first tired pageUId I was passing {page} not {page:page}
  • 17:34:40 <Denyerec> Now I am passing {page:page} (Why is that, anyway?) the page.uid is picking up.
  • 17:34:46 <Denyerec> WHy the page:page notation ?
  • 17:34:52 <Denyerec> instead of just {page} in arguments ?
  • 17:35:24 <bjo3rn> because you want to set a variable 'page' with the value of 'page'
  • 17:35:56 <bjo3rn> you could also do {foobar: page} and use pageUid="{foobar.page}" but...
  • 17:36:08 <bjo3rn> {foobar.uid} ofc
  • 17:37:57 <bjo3rn> and {_all} is some magic array containing all existing variables (notice that it is an array, thus the different notation)
  • 18:27:13 <randomresult> hi @bjo3rn , hi Denyerec
  • 18:29:48 <bjo3rn> hi randomresult
  • 18:29:59 <randomresult> hi still the fathers left...
  • 18:30:01 <randomresult> :)
  • 18:30:32 <Denyerec> Ah so array -> _
  • 18:36:38 <bjo3rn> Denyerec no, the underscore is arbitrary. maybe to mark it as 'special' ;)
  • 18:37:12 <cedricziel> the array notation for fluid is comparable to the object notation in JS
  • 18:38:58 <Denyerec> Ok.I.think.I.got.you
  • 18:39:11 * randomresult is off for a while... see u all
  • 19:10:59 <moger_xx> when using <v:asset> viewhelpers, everything works fine, except the little flaw that i'm getting "holes" in the resulting source code
  • 19:11:16 <moger_xx> anyone know a workaround to prevent this?
  • 19:11:34 <moger_xx> i mean linebreaks with "holes".
  • 19:16:38 <mhmli> anyone still here?
  • 19:24:34 <danilobuerger> yes mhmli
  • 19:24:38 <cedricziel> moger_xx: this is a fluid issue, use an external optimizer if you care about duplicated line-breaks in production anyways
  • 19:24:38 <danilobuerger> but you are gone :-(
  • 19:28:55 <moger_xx> thanks, i tried tinysource but it doesnt adress this issue specifically :)
  • 19:29:06 <moger_xx> any suggestions for another extension?
  • 19:30:22 <cedricziel> sourceopt?
  • 19:30:40 <cedricziel> that's the only one i even know which is an extension
  • 19:30:50 <cedricziel> i use pagespeed for those purposes
  • 19:31:13 <NamelessCoder> don't go the sourceopt etc. way or you'll be sorry in the long run ;)
  • 19:31:30 <moger_xx> I know, i had it once :)
  • 19:31:33 <NamelessCoder> I have had numerous complaints about unexpected behavior with such formatters
  • 19:31:41 <moger_xx> and i know i removed it for some reason i cant remember ;)
  • 19:31:56 <cedricziel> if you have to, plug the pagespeed in. that's the only serious attempt i know
  • 19:32:02 <moger_xx> ok i think I'll leave it as-is for now and go with pagespeed on the long run.
  • 19:32:09 <moger_xx> thank you guys!
  • 19:32:16 <NamelessCoder> yw :)
  • 19:32:19 <cedricziel> + fine looking source code is more voluminous for machines that eat it
  • 19:32:27 <moger_xx> by the way, excellent work, the new documentation
  • 19:32:27 <cedricziel> no problem :)
  • 19:32:36 <cedricziel> all credits NamelessCoder
  • 19:32:40 <NamelessCoder> it's fat, Cedric. It's okay to call it fat ;)
  • 19:32:45 <moger_xx> :)
  • 19:32:52 <cedricziel> haha, yep
  • 19:33:10 <cedricziel> the fat fish finger source code doesnt help any machine
  • 19:33:12 <cedricziel> :)
  • 19:58:51 <Guest|47570> Hi all! I have a problem upgrading from 6.0.4 to 7.0.0 on an upgraded typo3 6.2 (upgraded from 6.1.5). When I install FLUX I get an error in the extension manager. The version is from TER and the error I get is due to a require_once(...Classes\Utility\Version.php) in the flux directory. The file is really not there...
  • 20:01:27 <danilobuerger> Guest|47570 Version.php got renamed to VersionUtility.php
  • 20:02:06 <danilobuerger> please be aware of the colPos change: http://fluidtypo3.org/blog/news/new-colpos-value.html
  • 20:02:19 <Guest|47570> Ok, already tryed renaming it (I supposed that was the error). The problem is in the typo3 relased core??
  • 20:02:46 <Guest|47570> I got another error about something linke "unable to get class Utiliy_...
  • 20:02:49 <randomresult> evening
  • 20:02:57 <Guest|47570> I could not remember the full error now.
  • 20:04:20 <Guest|47570> P.S: Upgrading to 6.0.4 I already loaded the update script.
  • 20:11:58 <cedricziel> sounds like your class loader hates you.
  • 20:15:17 <Guest|47570> could be. :)
  • 20:19:23 <Denyerec> Guest|47570 have you flushed /typo3temp ?
  • 20:19:26 <Denyerec> That was kicking my ass.
  • 20:19:43 <randomresult> denyrec u work on mac?
  • 20:20:46 <Denyerec> nope.
  • 20:20:53 <Denyerec> Win7 machine, with my dev env. inside a VM
  • 20:20:56 <Denyerec> (Crunchbang Linux)
  • 20:21:12 <Denyerec> That way my dev environment is portable.
  • 20:21:13 <randomresult> there is a tool called livereload
  • 20:21:17 <Guest|47570> Denyerec: Deleted all the files in typo3temp/Cache
  • 20:21:24 <Denyerec> do the whole of /typo3temp/
  • 20:21:27 <randomresult> for mac. empties temp when something changed
  • 20:21:31 <Denyerec> Cleanse it with holy fire
  • 20:21:38 <danilobuerger> Guest|47570 you will need to do more than that
  • 20:21:43 <randomresult> rm -rf typo3temp/*
  • 20:21:48 <danilobuerger> please go to install tool and hit the Clean all Caches button
  • 20:22:00 <danilobuerger> not only typo3temp needs to be cleared but also DB tables
  • 20:22:54 <Guest|47570> ok, I'll try that. Thanks for the help for today.
  • 20:23:03 <Guest|47570> I'have to go, sorry.
  • 20:45:12 <Denyerec> {f:render(partial:'PageObjects', section:'BrowserSync') -> if(condition:settings.enableBrowserSync)}
  • 20:45:15 <Denyerec> Was that close ?
  • 20:49:28 <danilobuerger> no idea what you are doing ^^
  • 20:49:31 <Denyerec> Not quite
  • 20:49:44 <Denyerec> just want to conditionally render a partial based on a TRUE / FALSE TS setting
  • 20:49:55 <BenjaminR> Denyerec - yes close :)
  • 20:49:56 <Denyerec> And still struggling with the inline syntax
  • 20:50:10 <BenjaminR> if is missing namespace f:
  • 20:50:19 <Denyerec> f:if( ?
  • 20:50:23 <danilobuerger> f:if
  • 20:50:27 <Denyerec> fififififif
  • 20:50:30 <Denyerec> ¬_¬
  • 20:50:31 <BenjaminR> there is no if viewhelper :)
  • 20:50:32 <danilobuerger> or v:if , if you dare
  • 20:50:33 <Denyerec> Damn poodles.
  • 20:50:35 <Denyerec> LOL
  • 20:50:42 <Denyerec> Why do you make that sound mysterious and full of peril?
  • 20:50:49 <danilobuerger> v:if is mighty
  • 20:51:10 <danilobuerger> but its more obscure than v:resource.* to use
  • 20:51:19 <danilobuerger> its syntax is from hell
  • 20:51:19 <BenjaminR> yap - makes you feel reaaaally tiny :D
  • 20:51:31 <danilobuerger> invented by yours truely NamelessCoder and me :D
  • 20:51:36 <Denyerec> LOL
  • 20:51:42 <Denyerec> and even you're scared of it ?
  • 20:51:49 * Denyerec buys two tickets in the opposite direction
  • 20:51:52 <BenjaminR> :)
  • 20:52:17 <BenjaminR> {f:render(partial: 'PageObjects', section: 'BrowserSync') -> f:if(condition: settings.enableBrowserSync)}
  • 20:52:26 <danilobuerger> well i am the one who implemented it, and i like to stay as far away as possible
  • 20:52:50 <BenjaminR> Denyerec - do yourself a favor and add some attension to cgl - whitespace after attribut name
  • 20:52:52 <BenjaminR> fx
  • 20:52:59 <BenjaminR> :)
  • 20:53:12 <danilobuerger> Denyerec here are v:if usage examples -> https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/vhs/pull/401
  • 20:53:14 <NamelessCoder> v:if is like that combined screwdriver and top wrench which has six bends and is 1,2 meters long but is the only tool you can use when dismounting a car engine.
  • 20:53:41 <NamelessCoder> or, something like that
  • 20:54:06 <Denyerec> There's CGL for fluid templates?
  • 20:54:09 <Denyerec> I've overlooked this
  • 20:54:14 <Denyerec> I am set up for the core submission ones
  • 20:54:16 <BenjaminR> NO! there is cgl for your code :)
  • 20:54:27 <Denyerec> but hadn't even thought about templates
  • 20:54:29 <BenjaminR> You decide :)
  • 20:55:11 <Denyerec> Ah
  • 20:55:19 <Denyerec> so danilobuerger - why'd you write it if it now terrifies you? :)
  • 20:56:05 * NamelessCoder is remorseless for the monster he helped create
  • 21:15:55 <danilobuerger> Denyerec it always terrified me... but there is actually no better way to do it in Fluid
  • 21:16:05 <Denyerec> hahha
  • 21:16:22 <Denyerec> oh man yeah I saw these the other day
  • 21:19:10 <Denyerec> (: no, 1: idea, 2: what ( 0: is, 1: meant to be) 3: going, : on with them)
  • 21:21:36 <Denyerec> I don't get why you'd use v:if
  • 21:32:10 <BenjaminR> dont make yourself to much headache - i always say "when you need it you will know"
  • 21:32:24 <BenjaminR> wait for the moment when there is a usecase for it
  • 21:32:40 <BenjaminR> until then - forget about the details and simply remember "there is something bigger" :)
  • 21:42:41 <danilobuerger> Denyerec v:if is like porn... you will know it when you see it
  • 21:43:02 <Denyerec> Hah
  • 21:43:17 <Denyerec> Do you guys have a preferred extension for doing basic contact email forms ?
  • 21:43:21 <danilobuerger> yes
  • 21:43:22 <danilobuerger> fromage
  • 21:43:36 <danilobuerger> https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/fromage
  • 21:43:43 <danilobuerger> will be released very soon ;-)
  • 21:44:01 <Denyerec> That first bullet didn't sell me
  • 21:44:09 <Denyerec> "Bleedin' friggin' edge - and so very much NOT ready for practical use. Don't say I didn't warn you. Stay tuned though."
  • 21:44:11 <Denyerec> :D
  • 21:44:20 <Denyerec> Did you ever use sp_bettercontact ?
  • 21:44:36 <danilobuerger> no.. never trust READMEs that claus wrote :D
  • 21:44:41 <Denyerec> hahaha
  • 21:44:49 <Denyerec> sp_bettercontact had nice simple features.
  • 21:44:57 <Denyerec> If you haven't, I'd suggest quickly checking it out.
  • 21:45:02 <Denyerec> The spam handling was great
  • 21:48:43 <danilobuerger> i use fromage
  • 21:48:47 <danilobuerger> you cant convince me
  • 21:48:58 <Denyerec> INot as an alternative
  • 21:49:03 <Denyerec> just for handy features
  • 21:49:09 <danilobuerger> fromage > *
  • 21:49:11 <Denyerec> it seems this is a lot of work to build an email contact form.
  • 21:49:15 <danilobuerger> i mean een the name is awesome
  • 21:49:20 <Denyerec> pipes, templates, etc.
  • 21:49:54 <Denyerec> How would you handle spam / possible spam for example.
  • 21:51:11 <danilobuerger> captcha?
  • 21:51:37 <Denyerec> Eeeuch
  • 21:52:59 <Denyerec> ok I jut inished reading the fromage readme
  • 21:53:02 <Denyerec> and it DOES sound awesome.
  • 21:53:06 <Denyerec> ¬_¬
  • 21:53:13 <Denyerec> Really awesome, actually
  • 21:53:15 <danilobuerger> ...
  • 21:53:18 <danilobuerger> i told you
  • 21:53:21 <Denyerec> .You weren't wrong.
  • 21:54:23 <Denyerec> If a content editor creates a form
  • 21:54:34 <Denyerec> can that form be downloaded / exported in any way?
  • 21:54:43 <danilobuerger> ask NamelessCoder
  • 21:54:46 <Denyerec> Cos if I built a contact form with this locally, I'd need to then get it up onto the live site
  • 21:55:46 <danilobuerger> imo EVERYTHING will be possible after this weekend
  • 21:58:07 <Denyerec> lol
  • 21:58:38 <danilobuerger> you know how we killed csc with fcc... we are going to do the same thing with flexforms.... RIP flexforms... we are just gona murder them
  • 22:08:17 <Denyerec> danilobuerger - let's say I wanted to use this fromage thing...
  • 22:08:27 <Denyerec> ...roughly how long is a basic contact form going to take?
  • 22:08:49 <danilobuerger> you would have to ask NamelessCoder ...
  • 22:08:56 <Denyerec> ah so you've not used it ?
  • 22:09:00 <BenjaminR> good question Denyerec - but what do you expect it to do in that basic version
  • 22:09:11 <danilobuerger> NamelessCoder is the master of it
  • 22:10:02 <Denyerec> Email site owner if not spam, email spam contact if it is spam, email the sender with a confirmation, display a flashmessage / remove contact from from view with success message in place.
  • 22:15:15 <danilobuerger> so Denyerec
  • 22:15:28 <danilobuerger> gona code till 3 in the morning again?
  • 22:15:40 <Denyerec> LOL that depends if I decide to use this thing by the looks of it ;)
  • 22:16:24 <danilobuerger> somebody has to try it out and give feedback
  • 22:16:54 <Denyerec> Is that someone my client?
  • 22:16:57 <Denyerec> :)
  • 22:17:21 <danilobuerger> you :-)
  • 22:17:52 <danilobuerger> and as you can see http://fluidtypo3.org/roadmap.html here… fromage is scheduled for april
  • 22:19:23 <danilobuerger> you will be a fluidtypo3 pro in no time Denyerec
  • 22:19:39 <Denyerec> ¬_¬
  • 22:21:26 <Denyerec> I have 50+ images to retouch also.
  • 22:21:32 <Denyerec> So I'm trying to balance my time :Z
  • 22:21:41 <danilobuerger> photoshop batch
  • 22:21:46 <Denyerec> This fromage thing feels like the best thing to do - but I know what a rabbithole looks like.
  • 22:21:54 <Denyerec> LOL if I could batch retouch these, I totally would.
  • 22:22:12 <Denyerec> Sadly the best I could get was a routine to deconvolve the BG to allow low-frequency smoothing on the backdrops.
  • 22:22:23 <Denyerec> The rest is just grind work :(
  • 22:22:43 <Denyerec> Unless you meant to say "Photoshop bitch"
  • 22:22:46 <Denyerec> in which case yes, I am ;)
  • 22:23:09 <danilobuerger> :-(
  • 22:44:57 <soee> *is it possible to disable templates from fluiidpages package ?
  • 22:45:14 <soee> all i want is teh one i will create in my own
  • 22:45:49 <NamelessCoder> sure - just override all template, layout and partial root paths
  • 22:46:41 <Denyerec> Claus = how ready is Fromage ?
  • 22:47:13 <NamelessCoder> pre-alpha
  • 22:47:22 <NamelessCoder> use at your own peril
  • 22:48:26 <Denyerec> Claus-grade peril ?
  • 22:48:37 <NamelessCoder> possibly so
  • 22:49:21 <Denyerec> Ouch.
  • 22:49:23 <NamelessCoder> you should probably stay away from it another month, perhaps even two
  • 22:49:30 <Denyerec> OK, in which case for now I use sp_bettercontact.
  • 22:49:39 <Denyerec> I'm glad you got in there in time to rescue my evenin.
  • 22:50:04 <NamelessCoder> soee please confirm that you read my reply.
  • 22:51:59 <soee> NamelessCoder: yes, thank you
  • 22:53:49 <NamelessCoder> yw :)
  • 23:37:22 <Denyerec> NamelessCoder - with this fromage thing, if someone configures a form in the BE, will there be a convenient way to export it ?
  • 23:37:34 <Denyerec> (EG an export-to-flux option or something)
  • 23:37:38 <Denyerec> Just thinking about deployments is all.
  • 23:41:45 <NamelessCoder> well, that depends on a lot of things - off the bat, no. That plugin is intended to created ad-hoc forms as content only. But there's no telling what might happen in the next few months after Flux gets record-based storage.
  • 23:49:23 <Outdoorsman> Hmmm doesn't appear that there's really much going on with fluidbootstraptheme... it really doesn't look like there's a ton of work to do there but maybe I'm wrong. I've pinged randomresults a few times more about ETA and got no response.
  • 23:49:59 <danilobuerger> Outdoorsman well it is open source after all ;-)
  • 23:50:50 <Outdoorsman> I offered to help but didn't get a response on that either. He probably was just not watching at the time or something.
  • 23:51:22 <NamelessCoder> he has a strange way of not being around when we are :)
  • 23:51:36 <danilobuerger> So you want to use bootstrap or why are you waiting on this?
  • 23:52:28 <Outdoorsman> yes. I really do want to use bootstrap and would sure like to develop with something I don't have to redo all my templates for down the road.
  • 23:53:12 <danilobuerger> i personally despise bootstrap, but maybe looking how fluidtypo3.org implements it will help? https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/fluidtypo3org
  • 23:53:16 <Outdoorsman> I'm getting error with both options, fluidbootstraptheme as well as fuildpages_bootstrap.
  • 23:53:59 <Outdoorsman> I noticed your comments about it a while ago but stayed out of it :)
  • 23:55:47 <NamelessCoder> danilobuerger the main thing here would be the reusable content that is being made more starting-point-like (yay, words...) in fluidbootstraptheme than it was in fluidcontent_bootstrap
  • 23:56:23 <NamelessCoder> I told Outdoorsman to wait because the successor ext is likely to be maintained and developed more actively than our two bootstrap exts
  • 23:56:43 <danilobuerger> ok
  • 23:57:51 <Outdoorsman> I guess I haven't really used Foundation much yet, but it appears to be more what it is labeled... a foundation. I am very good at CSS but it still saves some time as long as you don't have to change every option in which case it becomes a pain. Just depends on your model I guess.
  • 23:59:05 <Outdoorsman> That's (at least at this point) why I chose Bootstrap. There is also a larger following which can be beneficial in *some* cases.