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20140318

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20140318

  • 08:23:48 <mrboe> good morning lovely people
  • 08:28:51 <braguzz> random?
  • 09:14:57 <braguzz> random?
  • 10:02:24 <moritzkrauss> Hi! I´m using the fluid content element (upgrade from fed) with 3 grid column. Each content element is displayed twice inside the page-module (one element inside fluid content, one element in the main column). Is there an significant change inside the template-structure between fed and fluidcontent? I´m using TYPO3 6.2, with fluidcontent (3.1.0), f
  • 10:02:25 <moritzkrauss> lux (6.0.2), vhs (1.8.4).
  • 10:10:40 <randomresult> moritzkrauss i dont think the TER Versions are ready for 6.2
  • 10:13:55 <moritzkrauss> ok - so i should use git-master?
  • 10:16:40 <randomresult> no
  • 10:17:07 <randomresult> git master as far as i know is similar with TER
  • 10:17:31 <randomresult> you will need the dev versions.
  • 10:17:43 <randomresult> BUT u need a migration script for that
  • 10:18:17 <randomresult> https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/documentation/blob/master/Namespaces.md
  • 10:18:33 <randomresult> things changed in flux/fluidpages and fluidcontent
  • 10:18:45 <randomresult> so u need the dev versions of all of them
  • 10:19:43 <randomresult> but better ask the team ( all marked with @ in this chan)
  • 10:21:55 <randomresult> to be honnest, when i read the Namespaces.md you should be able to go without the migrationscript... but i would run it anyways cause its the "New" way
  • 10:23:13 <moritzkrauss> randomresult - thx, i will have a look into the dev version and the Namespace.md
  • 10:23:34 <randomresult> good. make a backup :)
  • 10:27:55 <benjamin_654> hi, i installed a new 6.2 system like https://fedext.net/blog/62-installer-script.html
  • 10:28:31 <benjamin_654> But after installing fluidcontent i get the error "A cache with identifier "fluidcontent" does not exist." - any ideas how to fix?
  • 10:43:04 <Tjark> Problem with latest git snapshot. Checkout with beta_7 tag solve this
  • 10:44:15 <Tjark> i had this problem yesterday too :)
  • 10:46:47 <benjamin_654> ok, thx!
  • 11:03:06 <Denyerec> Do you guys write your menus in TS and drop them in via a TS VH, or is there a VH that's as flexible as a TS menu ?
  • 11:03:28 <Denyerec> I'm thinking sublevel expansion, active, current, optionsplit, all those things you get from a TS menu
  • 11:10:22 <braguzz> hey
  • 11:11:19 <braguzz> caching problem solved
  • 11:21:57 <alex_schnitzler> Hey guys, is there a possible solution for extending fluidcontent_core?
  • 11:22:46 <alex_schnitzler> Especially I want to add more classes to choose other than container for container elements.
  • 11:23:21 <alex_schnitzler> All possibles classes are already assigned using settings. {settings.container.classNames}
  • 11:23:27 <alex_schnitzler> But how do I extend these?
  • 11:24:37 <randomresult> @alex_schnitzler you use fluidcontent_core?
  • 11:24:44 <randomresult> is ready to use yet?
  • 11:25:15 <alex_schnitzler> Yes, I use it. Currently I am trying to use it in production, yes.
  • 11:25:36 <randomresult> but... as far as i saw the output is helloworld still
  • 11:26:56 <alex_schnitzler> Well, for me it works fine.
  • 11:28:12 <randomresult> some of them are empty
  • 11:28:58 <randomresult> well... https://fedext.net/overview.html roadmap says april...
  • 11:29:29 <randomresult> so where do u want to add something?
  • 11:30:47 <alex_schnitzler> Already found the setting. Thanks anyway :)
  • 11:32:03 <alex_schnitzler> I don't use the content types that print Hello World
  • 11:32:11 <alex_schnitzler> My client doesn't need them either
  • 11:40:41 <moritzkrauss> @randomresult tried git-development branch and checked the Namespaces.md (only necessary if you use 6.0/6.1 - i´m usig 6.2). BE and FE still shows duplicated CE inside fluid content and main column. Used the update-script too ... Any idea?
  • 11:44:00 <randomresult> you are using old fed-stuff dont u?
  • 11:45:36 <moritzkrauss> yes - little help -> http://monosnap.com/image/Ads4qdqLtPKHeyoI32uxItHgsjupTo
  • 11:49:45 <randomresult> sorry... i have never really used the old fedext
  • 11:49:51 <mneuhaus> hey guys
  • 11:50:27 <mneuhaus> is there anything i need to watch out for using 6.2 Beta 7 + Flux/Fluidpages git development branch?
  • 11:51:05 <mneuhaus> trying to get it to work right now, but i get http://dl.dropbox.com/u/314491/Screenshots/fp-om4k7vpb-.png
  • 12:11:54 <alex_schnitzler> Does all this fluid powered TYPO support language overlaying correctly?
  • 12:14:40 <Tjark> I have not found any bug so far.
  • 12:24:49 <bjo3rn> hi everyone
  • 12:25:12 <bjo3rn> mneuhaus did you register the extension key of your provider extension?
  • 12:25:40 <bjo3rn> alex_schnitzler I am using it in several multilanguage sites without any problems.
  • 12:25:48 <mneuhaus> yea, but it seems its kinda a general issue with beta 7, the typoscript itself somehow doesn't get registered
  • 12:25:50 <bjo3rn> so far i.e. ;)
  • 12:26:00 <moritzkrauss> @randomresult Problem solved - found out that ColPos inside each CE was empty :-)
  • 12:26:06 <bjo3rn> hm, worksonmymachine ;)
  • 12:26:33 <bjo3rn> is your extension namespaced (vendor)?
  • 12:27:04 <randomresult> hi @bjo3rn
  • 12:27:17 <bjo3rn> hi randomresult. long time no see :)
  • 12:27:32 <randomresult> well... i have been here alot recently
  • 12:27:48 <bjo3rn> yes, I wasn't.
  • 12:30:04 <randomresult> i have problems when creating an extension with _ harrys_extension
  • 12:30:36 <bjo3rn> harrys_extension?
  • 12:30:59 <randomresult> jupp...
  • 12:31:19 <randomresult> i try to merge fluidcontent_bootstrap and fluidpages_bootstrap into one...
  • 12:31:26 <bjo3rn> ah, that one
  • 12:31:39 <randomresult> everything works well without _
  • 12:31:47 <randomresult> so i decided to do that for now :)
  • 12:32:14 <bjo3rn> I still don't get it, sorry. underscore?
  • 12:32:46 <randomresult> ok. myextension_name does not work well. myextensionname works perfect
  • 12:33:00 <bjo3rn> ah, that's a pita, yes.
  • 12:33:08 <randomresult> so i work without _
  • 12:33:30 <randomresult> where can i check wether an extkey is taken or not?
  • 12:33:35 <bjo3rn> I lost some of my remainig hair about the correct combination of extension key, extension name, folder name
  • 12:33:58 <bjo3rn> I don't know. I never published stuff on ter
  • 12:34:04 <randomresult> bad idea... so i leave it without underscore
  • 12:35:20 <randomresult> i dont have too much hair to loose a single on.
  • 12:35:30 <randomresult> i leave it to the team to loose them :)
  • 12:37:10 <bjo3rn> too late for me ;)
  • 12:44:53 <xaver_> cedricziel: you here?
  • 12:45:01 <xaver_> i need a important information ;)
  • 12:45:47 <bjo3rn> anyone here to meet at TYPO3 camp Stuttgart?
  • 12:53:30 <randomresult> bjo3rn not am i. but on your way, come and grab a coffee / beer
  • 12:54:01 <mrboe> would also grab a beer
  • 12:54:47 <bjo3rn> where are you located again? ka?
  • 12:55:05 <mrboe> HD
  • 12:56:38 <randomresult> near heidelberg
  • 12:56:49 <randomresult> hi mrboe
  • 12:56:56 <randomresult> @nameless? u there?
  • 12:57:31 <bjo3rn> I'll take the train so...
  • 12:57:42 <randomresult> hmmm... there is a tabnavigation in fluidpages_bootstrap but i dont know how to aktivate it. is it used?
  • 12:57:44 <bjo3rn> you'll have to call his full name to summon him :)
  • 12:58:02 <randomresult> bjo3rn: take the car, come for a beer
  • 12:58:05 <randomresult> or two
  • 12:58:16 <randomresult> @NamelessCoder like this?
  • 12:58:17 <randomresult> :)
  • 12:58:36 <randomresult> i guess now there is a big bell ringing in his office...
  • 12:58:51 <randomresult> hopefully loud enough - louder than his musik
  • 13:00:09 <xaver_> randomresult: NamelessCoder listen to good enjoy and relexable music!
  • 13:04:17 <bjo3rn> well, hd is almost on the route I see...
  • 13:05:00 <bjo3rn> I first thought of Heilbronx
  • 13:05:50 <mneuhaus> hmm, next issue ^^ how do i add a new content element?
  • 13:05:50 <mneuhaus> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/314491/Screenshots/l3dxmiom9bog.png
  • 13:06:11 <mneuhaus> i get not button to add new content, no matter were i move my mouse/hover
  • 13:06:41 <bjo3rn> I heard of that one...
  • 13:07:55 <bjo3rn> unfortunately I don't remember the cause :/
  • 13:08:10 <mneuhaus> :(
  • 13:08:36 <bjo3rn> NamelessCoder does pretty sure
  • 13:11:07 <mneuhaus> then we'll wait for the almighty viking :)
  • 13:11:34 <randomresult> @xaver_ relaxing music... hmhmm
  • 13:11:56 <xaver_> mneuhaus: delete typotemp and everything
  • 13:12:18 <xaver_> take a look into the source code and if you can't find anything - try the list view
  • 13:12:22 <mneuhaus> ah, ok nice :)
  • 13:12:27 <mneuhaus> works
  • 13:12:38 <bjo3rn> hehe, the simple things :)
  • 13:12:38 <xaver_> most times it this issue a issue with the sprite
  • 13:12:48 <randomresult> what i hate about the new way of templating ist the typo3temp thing
  • 13:12:58 <mneuhaus> sometimes i miss the time where, you'd only have to remove the temp files in typo3conf if something was fucked up
  • 13:12:59 <bjo3rn> it's gone in the current dev
  • 13:13:06 <xaver_> randomresult: i have no problems at all
  • 13:14:23 <bjo3rn> see https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/fluidcontent/pull/125
  • 13:21:53 <randomresult> gnaaa disconnected again
  • 14:00:37 <BenjaminR> How do you guys test your website in multiple browsers and clients? Id prefer BrowserStack if pricing wouldnt be so painful
  • 14:05:12 <xaver_> BenjaminR: automatic?
  • 14:05:23 <BenjaminR> prefered - yes
  • 14:05:39 <xaver_> https://saucelabs.com/
  • 14:10:34 <BenjaminR> thanks xaver. 120 minutes automated tests is enough for you?
  • 14:11:22 <BenjaminR> oh there is a free account too. nice
  • 14:12:25 <xaver_> depends
  • 14:12:29 <xaver_> but a test is fast
  • 14:12:38 <xaver_> depends on your workflow
  • 14:12:49 <xaver_> test it for free and you will see :)
  • 14:13:08 <xaver_> manuel testing is inclusive
  • 14:13:13 <BenjaminR> ty
  • 14:15:11 <xaver_> it depends a lot BenjaminR e.g. js unit tests, how complex are sleniumtest and how fast is your site :P
  • 14:16:15 <xaver_> i think 16€ month (nor annual) is cheap, compared to maintain a lot of vms
  • 14:16:35 <xaver_> you need also the resources ,,,
  • 14:20:10 <BenjaminR> i agree ... completely :)
  • 14:20:25 <BenjaminR> it looks very good - right now did the first manual test
  • 14:30:19 <xaver_> hi alex_schnitzler :)
  • 14:30:30 <alex_schnitzler> xaver_: hi
  • 14:35:36 <xaver_> BenjaminR: stop!
  • 14:35:42 <xaver_> now the service is down
  • 14:35:49 <BenjaminR> i am sorry :P
  • 14:38:17 <Denyerec> Do you guys write your menus in TS and drop them in via a TS VH, or is there a VH that's as flexible as a TS menu ?
  • 14:38:18 <Denyerec> I'm thinking sublevel expansion, active, current, optionsplit, all those things you get from a TS menu
  • 14:40:16 <BenjaminR> v:page.menu - you ca assign as="" and then build it ourself
  • 14:40:22 <BenjaminR> *yourself
  • 14:40:31 <Denyerec> "build it myself" ?
  • 14:40:53 <BenjaminR> iterate over the variable and use partials for submenus etc
  • 14:40:55 <Denyerec> But I already have TS that builds menus
  • 14:41:04 <Denyerec> In ~ 4 lines of TS
  • 14:41:26 <Denyerec> Seems odd to have to resort to writing loops again
  • 14:41:42 <BenjaminR> well you asked. most of use use v:page.menu and if there is something which that vh is not able to do interate over the menu array and build it with custom markup yourself
  • 14:41:56 <Denyerec> Ok
  • 14:42:08 <Denyerec> so perhaps page.menu is as flexible as TMENU/HMENU
  • 14:42:12 <Denyerec> I will look at the VH
  • 14:42:12 <BenjaminR> v:page.menu reflects the most common use cases
  • 14:42:33 <BenjaminR> but doesnt implement every specific use case one would wish to keep it clear and generic
  • 14:43:34 <Denyerec> Can I drop in a TS object without issues ?
  • 14:44:30 <Denyerec> wow OK .menu has a LOT of options
  • 14:45:20 <xaver> BenjaminR: or use {menu} works without as :)
  • 14:45:37 <Denyerec> ?
  • 14:45:54 <Denyerec> in the fedext reference, it would be nice to have a column for "default"
  • 14:45:57 * Denyerec prods claus
  • 15:07:47 <ndee> when I defined an asset in extension foo with a name, can I somehow load that asset in extension bar?
  • 15:47:28 * randomresult is loving git
  • 17:04:15 <Denyerec> Any of you guys using bower ?
  • 17:47:12 <alex_schnitzler> Denyerec: I am using a browser
  • 17:47:24 <Denyerec> Ok great
  • 17:47:35 <Denyerec> how do you deal with Resources/Private and Resources/Public ?
  • 17:47:45 <Denyerec> I need to install some SCSS that really belongs in /private
  • 17:47:53 <Denyerec> but obviously JS libs need to live in /public/
  • 17:48:09 <alex_schnitzler> Sorry, that was a stupid joke. bowser != browser. ;)
  • 17:48:20 <Denyerec> :/
  • 17:48:29 <Denyerec> Looks like I'm no nearer the solution.
  • 17:48:54 <alex_schnitzler> But I used bower once and didn't figure that out, too
  • 17:49:06 <alex_schnitzler> Maybe .bowerrc can be adjusted
  • 17:49:09 <Denyerec> Well
  • 17:49:18 <Denyerec> one thought was to have .bowerrc in each public and private
  • 17:49:20 <Denyerec> but that seemed messy
  • 17:49:31 <Denyerec> next was to use this: https://github.com/blittle/bower-installer
  • 17:49:39 <Denyerec> But I don't understand the example as I'm new to bower.
  • 17:51:47 <alex_schnitzler> Well, it's two different concepts of resource management that do not fit together.
  • 17:51:55 <BenjaminR> you use bower to compile your sass? for phpstorm i can define the output path for my filwatcher
  • 17:52:09 <alex_schnitzler> Seperation of private/public against packags
  • 17:52:57 <Denyerec> No BenjaminR
  • 17:53:08 <Denyerec> say I want to invlue some SCSS framework, AND some javascript library
  • 17:53:14 <Denyerec> the JS lib needs to live in /public
  • 17:53:26 <Denyerec> the SCSS really should be in /private
  • 17:53:37 <Denyerec> (Which then gets compiled into /public
  • 17:53:39 <Denyerec> )
  • 17:53:51 <Denyerec> But I'm struggling to see how to install bower modules to different locations,.
  • 17:54:15 <Denyerec> Seems like everything might have to live in /Public which kinda violates the extBase/Flow model of organising resources.
  • 17:56:01 <alex_schnitzler> Well, just install everything into Public
  • 17:56:31 <alex_schnitzler> This time configuration wins over convention.
  • 17:56:37 <Denyerec> the bower-installer allows you to move resources post-install
  • 17:56:48 <Denyerec> if you know the "main" file that you're looking for.
  • 17:56:52 <alex_schnitzler> You can secure all private files with a .htaccess in the webroot.
  • 17:56:56 <Denyerec> In the case of jquery that would be the main .js file
  • 17:57:04 <Denyerec> however SCSS projects tend to fragment heavily
  • 18:13:57 <alex_schnitzler> How do I get rid of this error? Could not analyse class:Tx_Vhs_ViewHelpers_Page_Content_RenderViewHelper maybe not loaded or no autoloader
  • 18:14:28 <alex_schnitzler> Is the installation order of the extensions important?
  • 18:24:27 <bjo3rn> alex_schnitzler which version of vhs?
  • 18:24:40 <alex_schnitzler> development, all of them
  • 18:24:51 <alex_schnitzler> Used the install-script for 6.2
  • 18:24:58 <alex_schnitzler> Worked for two days.
  • 18:24:58 <bjo3rn> ok, I think this one got deprecated in the last PR
  • 18:25:06 <alex_schnitzler> Suddenly something failed
  • 18:25:21 <bjo3rn> is the class there?
  • 18:25:34 <alex_schnitzler> vhs is completely namespaced now
  • 18:25:38 <bjo3rn> aha
  • 18:25:59 <bjo3rn> then it's probably missing in migrations
  • 18:26:26 <alex_schnitzler> How do you manage to have the same namespace for two different extensions?
  • 18:26:37 <bjo3rn> huh?
  • 18:26:42 <alex_schnitzler> The classes inside vhs are namspaced with Flux
  • 18:27:07 <alex_schnitzler> FluidTYPO3\Flux\ViewHelpers\Content
  • 18:27:12 <alex_schnitzler> In Ext vhs
  • 18:27:18 <bjo3rn> really?? sec.
  • 18:27:21 <alex_schnitzler> Yes
  • 18:28:16 <bjo3rn> ehm, can you give me a link to a source on Github?
  • 18:28:47 <bjo3rn> https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/vhs/blob/development/Classes/ViewHelpers/Content/RenderViewHelper.php#L36
  • 18:28:50 <bjo3rn> no flux
  • 18:28:50 <alex_schnitzler> Now I get it
  • 18:29:07 <alex_schnitzler> I pulled the wrong extension into ext/vhs.
  • 18:29:12 <bjo3rn> hehe
  • 18:29:15 * alex_schnitzler is an idiot
  • 18:29:28 <bjo3rn> a so called mashup
  • 18:46:02 <bjo3rn> hi ndee
  • 18:46:22 <ndee> hi bjo3rn :)
  • 18:46:45 <bjo3rn> you asked about my blog entry the other day?
  • 18:46:55 <ndee> bjo3rn: yes, just wanted to thank you :D
  • 18:47:00 <bjo3rn> oh, hehe
  • 18:47:21 <bjo3rn> nice to see it's helpful at times
  • 18:48:43 <ndee> it is. Sometimes, I think why I don't write more stuff down that I just learned
  • 18:49:00 <bjo3rn> yes. that's the idea.
  • 18:49:41 <bjo3rn> I helped myself several times by looking things up in my own blog :S
  • 18:49:45 <ndee> :D
  • 18:50:00 <bjo3rn> so you use the php stack by liip as well?
  • 18:50:32 <ndee> nope, but the edit of /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.apache.httpd.plist helped.
  • 18:51:28 <bjo3rn> :P
  • 20:31:56 <randomresult> is @NamelessCoder here?
  • 21:03:07 <randomresult> @bjo3rn nice post about partials in configurations-sections... will for sure be helpful :)
  • 21:03:42 <randomresult> is codeboxed. :)
  • 21:07:58 <Denyerec> linky
  • 21:07:59 <Denyerec> ?
  • 21:25:27 <bjo3rn> yep, randomresult. I didn't find out about it though.