00:39:52 <Outdoorsman> I'm wondering if this is something that would be specific to the fluidbootstraptheme extension or something like vhs or flux, etc.
00:43:47 <cedricziel> that's why i'm asking for more information
00:43:58 <Outdoorsman> The element I was using is here... https://github.com/bootstraptheme-for-typo3/fluidbootstraptheme/blob/development/Resources/Private/Templates/Content/Carousel.html
00:44:25 <Outdoorsman> Is that what you were asking for?
00:48:01 <cedricziel> user_uploads is a managed directory
00:48:10 <cedricziel> _never ever_ move around files in there
00:48:37 <Outdoorsman> I'll ping a few people on this like mrboe and randomresults. I'm not sure how to even state the problem if I create an issue though.
01:02:01 <cedricziel> depends.. the implementation stbilizes step by step-but flexforms are a special case in many ways
01:02:35 <xaver> Fal is in 6.2 much better, but the problem was 6.0 and 6.1 had lots of problems and no docu
01:03:05 <cedricziel> as NamelessCoder reported on one of the issues you participate on, our next goal is relational data storage. once we have that, we can use any type in flexforms
01:05:22 <Outdoorsman> Oh, so are you saying that even flux:field.file will eventually be utilizing FAL? Secondly, does relational data storage = FAL the way you are referring to it here?
01:05:51 <Outdoorsman> Just getting caught up on terminology.
01:07:29 <Outdoorsman> xaver To be honest, I skipped 6.0 and 6.1. For some reason they were just buggy for me all the way around but I'm loving 6.2 and am migrating my clients there now.
01:30:13 <Outdoorsman> cedricziel, Just want to know this one last thing. Are you saying that even flux:field.file will eventually be utilizing FAL? (When you say "relational data storage", does that mean FAL?)
01:36:48 <cedricziel> that means the storage engine behind flexforms will get relational and more accessible.
01:37:34 <cedricziel> and for FAL, you need a reference id which doesnt work in flexform section objects
01:37:51 <cedricziel> that's the main reason for the troubles
01:38:47 <cedricziel> to answer your question: use the file field; simply dont move the files around from inside protected directories
01:39:08 <Outdoorsman> Thanks. I'll learn more about this as time goes by. As you were ;)
01:39:10 <cedricziel> there'll _eventually_ be a migration for those
10:16:45 <alex_schnitzler> I don't really get the namespace thingy in phpstorm. A blogpost of yours says it works out of the box: <div xmlns:v="http://fedext.net/ns/vhs/ViewHelpers" />
10:17:42 <alex_schnitzler> By the way. Do you know of someone already building a foundation provider extension?
11:06:54 <xaver> we use bootstrap and we also used zurb
11:07:21 <xaver> i like the bootstrap docu more, but both are really similar.
11:07:28 <soee> xaver: by client request or own decisions ?
11:07:43 <alex_schnitzler> Well, if I want to use zurb it's not an argument to say you can use bootstrap instead. So I don't get the point. Sure, the provider extension for bootstrap already exists but I don't want to use it. ;)
11:09:49 <xaver> i would prefer a simple standard grid and add everything else use the optimal solution
11:10:10 <xaver> e.g. bootstrap and prototype is bad - you need to chnage 1 source
11:13:05 <soee> xaver: @yesterday's question about backend layouts, if we are using page layouts etc. from our provider extension that the default page options for selecting layout for page and subpages are bit useless
11:25:52 <GRIMMCREATIVE> how to say a client in friendly way that he is stupid and have no idea about design+code+everything ? - or wait... will just say it like this... lets try
11:32:31 <GRIMMCREATIVE> I like to say - show me an really good example of what you want to achieve but only if you really like it - then i will do it for you... Then they try to show me - get back to my solution with the words... mhhh yesterday the other site was nice, but today it just do not look good anymore :D
11:42:20 <dasFelix> hi... maybe a "dumb" question, but I asked myself since months: What is the difference between "fedext" and "fluidtypo3" ... I thought "fedext" is just the old expression of same thing... but the channel name is the proof I am wrong... :)
11:50:13 <BenjaminR> dasFelix: that is our team channel - not meant to be communicated. everyone who is in there is in here too
11:50:25 <dasFelix> and one last question (for just now ^^ ) ... is there a good / simple step-by-step howto about start a 'blank' project with builder-extension with the goal to have a naked bootstrap-based fluidtypo3 system?
11:50:35 <cedricziel> fluidcontent provides custom content elements constructd with pure fluid. fluidcontent_core replaces css_styled_content as we think it should be the other way around: turn on what you like, not turn off anythinguntil it fits your markup somehow
11:51:08 <dasFelix> best I found was this here: http://www.webnugget.de/ (in German)
11:51:10 <cedricziel> worksonmymachine.org maintained by bjo3rn provides a quickstart
11:51:43 <dasFelix> oh thx cedricziel - seems to be very helpful
11:51:48 <cedricziel> we're in the middle of reating a 'tutorial' distribution which guides through most of the aspects
11:54:42 <xaver> i need to watch the 3 video, i think i hide behind danilobuerger
11:54:43 <cedricziel> dasFelix: there are several resources. do you know the basics of extbase and fluid?
11:55:18 <dasFelix> cedricziel ... at least it's not 'schwäbisch' ^^
11:55:35 <cedricziel> if so, grab a builder on a clean slate and generate you a provider extension.
11:55:46 <cedricziel> (that's what i'm doing in part 2 btw)
11:56:07 <cedricziel> then, compare the result with what you know about extbase and fluid
11:56:23 <cedricziel> then proceed by having a look at one of the example projects:
11:56:46 <cedricziel> https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/fluidtypo3org - Provider extension for fluidtypo3.org
11:57:43 <xaver> yeah 3 video i hide the most times :P
11:57:56 <cedricziel> https://github.com/Ecodev/speciality - Provider Extension of the *old* and first bootstrap package. in constant development by Fabien and always a source for _inspiration_
11:58:45 <cedricziel> after that, grab the viewhelper reference from ft3.org. that should get you started quickly
11:59:01 <xaver> try builder and you have a good skeleton to work with
11:59:10 <cedricziel> so dasFelix: video (1+2) + builder on a clean slate + examples i provided.
11:59:51 <dasFelix> okay... This one is useful too: https://github.com/bootstraptheme-for-typo3/fluidbootstraptheme
12:01:01 <cedricziel> i havent had a closer look at it, but it's run by some valuable persons not directly related to us but always present in here.
12:02:14 <cedricziel> it seems BenjaminR is a team member there as well
12:03:42 <BenjaminR> randomresult and mrboe are perfect constultants regarding fbt
12:04:51 <dasFelix> thx all - The videos are really great. I wish I'd been there too (at Stuttgart)
14:45:43 <jlumpe> i cloned the latest dev versions
14:46:16 <jlumpe> the method is being called in /www/htdocs/w0120a21/conceptfactory.de/public/typo3conf/ext/flux/Classes/Controller/AbstractFluxController.php:
14:46:55 <cedricziel> interesting. does it block the backend, or just the frontend?
15:22:57 <cedricziel> bjo3rn did you decide if you'll go to muc his year?
15:34:07 <cedricziel> been there last year and bjo3rn and i had a serious blast. but the camp as such wasnt the hit
15:53:18 <bjo3rn> cedricziel I decided not to go. same as you I liked the surroundings (the camp not so much) and I'd like to meet the gang again but I have family obligations at that time unfortunately.
15:54:16 <mrboe> so randomresult_afk is the only guy there?
15:54:34 <cedricziel> okay. i won't take it then unless danilo decides it's a good investment
15:54:48 <cedricziel> okay then-let's try to meet again at the camp rhein ruhr. deal?
16:35:51 <Outdoorsman> I see something here above and checked it out in Google Translate. Turns out it was all Greek to me... Τι φροντίδα είπα και χθες, τίποτα δεν εμποδίζει να είμαι σοφός