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20141128

• 00:10:22 <xaver> qnic what is zour useragent
• 00:10:33 <xaver> NamelessCoder: any idea
• 00:14:55 <NamelessCoder> qnic it appears CloudFlare thinks the user agent is a thread
• 00:15:07 <NamelessCoder> s/thread/threat
• 00:16:08 <NamelessCoder> also, please share your netbeans autocompletion setup, people have asked for that ;)
• 00:42:26 <vizArt> hi everybody ... I hope somebody can help: By using fluidpages all installed packages are shown in every page. Is it possible to activate different templates for different sites within one TYPO3 instance?
• 00:44:11 <vizArt> Usecase are multidomain pages ... using unique template-sets
• 00:49:43 <vizArt> If i understand the documentation right: https://fluidtypo3.org/documentation/templating-manual/templating/using-templates/selecting-page-templates.html (last paragraph) there may be typoscript support. But everything i try nothing works.
• 08:18:14 <Momodedf> Hello everybody
• 09:15:53 <jmverges> good morning mates
• 09:15:55 <FT3BOT> Welcome back jmverges!
• 09:16:59 <jmverges> what does the bot?
• 09:25:43 <jmverges> is everybody sleeping or working? today is friday! black friday in fact.
• 13:32:49 <qnic> xaver, it's Java/1.7.0_71
• 13:33:33 <qnic> NamelessCoder, I'll give you a paste once schema retrieval works
• 13:34:35 <xaver> qnic: i tried it yesterday and schemaLocation didn't work at all - docu says it should work
• 13:35:41 <qnic> xaver, it does work for me
• 13:35:46 <qnic> http://nopaste.info/44b351622f.html
• 13:35:54 <qnic> a dump of the request/response fyi
• 13:36:04 <xaver> useragent ajava is always bad
• 13:36:38 <qnic> I guess you're implying I should open a ticket with netbeans so it uses a custom UA?
• 13:37:10 <xaver> A lot of "bad" bots using java
• 13:37:38 <NamelessCoder> qnic our situation: it is CloudFlare that is blocking this and our security filtering is already at "minimal". The next level of security is "off" and I am disinclined to set that. There's no option in CloudFlare to whitelist specific user agents.
• 13:38:49 <qnic> which means fixing netbeans is pretty much the only option, if possible
• 13:39:14 <qnic> you're surely not the only site to use cloudflare, after all
• 13:39:28 <NamelessCoder> qnic temporarily you can set port :8080 in the URL but I'm afraid this one would be an issue with EVERY site using cloudflare to serve files that netbeans attempts to access - except those running without any security filtering of course.
• 13:39:48 <NamelessCoder> we can't guarantee that the :8080 solution will work forever though
• 13:40:10 <xaver> NamelessCoder: wait
• 13:40:12 <NamelessCoder> aaaaand that doesn't work now
• 13:40:16 <qnic> haha
• 13:40:21 <NamelessCoder> https redirects are in effect
• 13:40:29 <xaver> try git
• 13:40:33 <xaver> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/FluidTYPO3/flux/development/Resources/Private/Schemas/Flux.xsd
• 13:40:56 <NamelessCoder> xaver served as text/plain, may be misinterpreted by client
• 13:41:42 <xaver> he could try it - if eclipse as java IDE has the same problem, we maybe should sue another CDN to ship thoes files
• 13:41:44 <NamelessCoder> qnic I will disable the security for 30 seconds to let you confirm that it is in fact the issue
• 13:41:58 <qnic> I'll try the github one, wait
• 13:42:09 <qnic> it seems to download correctly
• 13:42:36 <NamelessCoder> is it still an .xsd? :)
• 13:45:51 <qnic> it downloads but autocomplete doesn't work (yet)
• 13:46:04 <qnic> and I'll probably need more than 30s to analyze this
• 13:46:25 <NamelessCoder> PM me your IP, I'll excempt you
• 13:47:05 <qnic> I definitely remember getting it to work with local xsd files at some point
• 14:13:58 <qnic> ok so it kinda works
• 14:14:14 <qnic> but not in conjunction with the XHTML schema
• 14:14:44 <qnic> and only if the root element is a tag found inside an XML schema specified
• 14:16:08 <qnic> XHTML probably doesn't work since the xsd specifies the complete document structure which doesn't allow any elements from other namespaces
• 14:16:44 <NamelessCoder> so really it doesn't work :/
• 14:17:16 <qnic> how do other IDEs solve this, specifically the xhtml part?
• 14:17:49 <NamelessCoder> just works, probably because of a default file extension to schema map
• 14:20:08 <qnic> but still, shouldn't the xhtml schema disallow any custom tags as childs of html tags?
• 14:25:56 <NamelessCoder> if they are inside a declared namespace, sure
• 14:26:39 <qnic> sure they should be allowed, or sure they should be disallowed?
• 14:27:40 <NamelessCoder> allowed
• 14:29:18 <qnic> so xml schemas are not valid accross namespaces?
• 14:29:29 <xaver> qnic: looks like phpstorm ignores it in html
• 14:30:28 <qnic> xaver, but strictly speaking, it's not valid as in conform to the .xsd then, right?
• 14:31:00 <NamelessCoder> qnic the namespace prefix determins the valid nodes
• 14:32:27 <qnic> NamelessCoder, so within a <div>, I should be able to insert a <v:something>?
• 14:35:12 <NamelessCoder> yes
• 14:35:14 <qnic> ok
• 14:35:20 <qnic> so to sum it up
• 14:35:25 <NamelessCoder> if you declared the v: namespace earlier or on the div itself
• 14:35:31 <qnic> not offering elements from other namespaces is a netbeans bug
• 14:35:37 <qnic> yes I did
• 14:39:26 <beo6> hello everyone
• 14:42:19 <qnic> nevertheless
• 14:42:28 <qnic> it's still feasible to use if you don't need the HTML stuff
• 14:43:11 <qnic> you have to use a dummy root element since HTML doesn't work and using a viewhelper would probably not be possible
• 14:43:15 <qnic> http://nopaste.info/01d08796c0.html
• 14:43:37 <qnic> if HTML would work, this would of course not be necessary
• 14:43:52 <qnic> so I can file a bug about offering autocompletion for unrelated namespaces
• 14:43:57 <qnic> but what about the UA issue then?
• 15:03:09 <xaver> qnic: you can always file a issue and if you explain it and we can support more systems, we will think about it
• 15:04:16 <NamelessCoder> we cannot whitelist user agents and I really don't want to disable security threat checking
• 15:04:29 <NamelessCoder> I can exempt by IP but cannot offer to do that for all netbeans users of course
• 15:05:07 <qnic> ok so two bug reports it is
• 15:05:10 <NamelessCoder> if netbeans has *any* way to configure the UA, exploit it. Otherwise, request a change for netbeans to either set a proper UA or allow the user to define one that should be used.
• 15:05:11 <qnic> maybe they'll change the UA
• 15:05:20 <qnic> I'll look into that
• 15:05:42 <qnic> in the meantime I can always use the github URLs
• 15:36:34 <qnic> fyi
• 15:36:35 <qnic> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=248982
• 15:36:43 <qnic> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=248983
• 17:05:23 <nigel-peach> hi everyone
• 17:05:54 <nigel-peach> FluidContent_Core: Can you tell me, whether it is somehow possible to define custom partials within my own provider extensions?
• 17:09:27 <nigel-peach> I know it is possible to override the template path alltogether, I'm just wondering whether I can use partials for a single variant
• 17:09:40 <nigel-peach> "template path" -> "partial path"
• 17:57:05 <qnic> NamelessCoder, not completely unrelated: https://fluidtypo3.org/schemas/fluid-master.xsd has multiple duplicate xsd:elements, e.g. be.container
• 18:16:43 <nigel-peach> Doesn't anyone know how to use custom partials for specific fluidcontent_core elemtents?