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20140311

08:26:06 <randomresult> good morning
08:31:57 <Tjark> hi
08:32:07 <vizArt> moooorning
08:48:38 <randomresult> @BenjaminR u there?
09:19:06 <randomresult> ok, having problems with my provider extension, i decided to make everything from scratch. So for starting over, im thinking of using the ft3_empty Extension. good choice?
09:24:02 <randomresult> i decided to use BUILDER to make a new Ext.
09:24:25 <randomresult> so, i include some TS-Files. Would u prefer to name them .txt or .ts ?
09:25:04 <randomresult> i have the main setup.txt and i want to include some config.ts (.txt) ... so which File-Extension would u use?
09:59:43 <randomresult> very quiet in here...
10:00:07 <cedricziel> oui
10:02:59 <randomresult> hi cedricziel
10:03:49 <randomresult> i'm still struggeling with this silly little textfield
11:25:32 <braguzz> right place to ask for fluidcontent_bootstrap problem?
11:31:50 <BenjaminR> since fedext is the author of this ext and we talked about it the last days together you know this is the right place, not? :)
11:31:52 <randomresult> braguzz: sure
11:35:34 <randomresult> BenjaminR could u have a look at the textfield-problem?
11:38:26 <braguzz> hihi
11:38:51 <braguzz> I have some cpu problem enabling fluidcontent_bootstrap
11:38:57 <braguzz> when I empty the cache
11:40:15 <braguzz> cpu goes 100% when I empty the cache (and emptying is veeeery long..)
11:40:44 <braguzz> two days try to understand the cause
11:40:58 <braguzz> mysql innodb disk i/o ecc..
11:41:18 <braguzz> then I start to disable ext one by one and.... opla
11:41:45 <braguzz> if I disable fluidcontetn_bootstrap
11:42:19 <braguzz> emptying the cache is fast and no 100% cpu happens
11:42:33 <randomresult> which versions of T3/Flux/Fluidpages/Fluidcontent/FluidContentBootstrap do u use?
11:43:06 <braguzz> t3 6.1.5
11:43:32 <braguzz> flux 6.0.1
11:43:54 <braguzz> fluidpages 2.1.0
11:43:57 <randomresult> these are TER versions right?
11:44:08 <braguzz> fc 3.1.0
11:44:22 <braguzz> flcont_boot 2.0.0
11:45:35 <braguzz> yes?
11:46:20 <randomresult> yes? or yes!
11:46:52 <braguzz> sotty Iim shy
11:46:59 <braguzz> what is a ter version?
11:47:10 <braguzz> yes? mean I suppose!
11:47:15 <randomresult> downloaded with extensionmanager from a t3-Repository
11:47:20 <braguzz> yes!
11:47:36 <randomresult> so these are (lets say) oder versions.
11:47:39 <randomresult> older
11:48:07 <randomresult> and to be honest, i dont know if the bootstrap one is worked on in this version
11:48:29 <braguzz> so?
11:48:40 <randomresult> there are newer ones which you can load from git hub.
11:49:04 <braguzz> could you tell me how to load form git?
11:49:06 <randomresult> but as far as i know, there was a major change
11:49:50 <randomresult> do you have your own provider-extension or do u just use the bootstrap one?
11:50:38 <braguzz> just use the bootstrap onme with 'speciality' extension
11:51:07 <randomresult> where did u get this from?
11:51:09 <braguzz> get form fedext
11:51:27 <randomresult> i dont think the speciality extension is from fedext.
11:51:34 <braguzz> then I change some template ecc..
11:52:04 <braguzz> I think so
11:52:13 <randomresult> im quite sure its not.
11:52:21 <braguzz> if you download the 'bootstrappackage'
11:52:31 <randomresult> which is not from fedext
11:52:32 <braguzz> there is a speciality ext
11:52:48 <braguzz> https://fedext.net/
11:52:53 <braguzz> Online demo site
11:52:58 <randomresult> i think its from fudriot
11:53:31 <braguzz> yes I think too but is linked from fedext.net
11:53:33 <randomresult> this one is based on fedext-Extensions
11:53:52 <braguzz> so I'm in this situation
11:53:58 <randomresult> wait
11:54:02 <randomresult> gimme a sec
11:54:05 <braguzz> SURE
11:54:51 <randomresult> could u have a look into typo3conf / ext / speciality / Resources / Private / Templates / Content / CarouselWidget.html
11:55:26 <braguzz> yes give me a second becouse is a test server
11:56:21 <randomresult> do u find <flux:field.input or is it somethink like <flux:flexform.field.input?
11:56:32 <braguzz> there is not a Carouselwidget
11:56:49 <braguzz> ther is a Carousel.html
11:56:58 <randomresult> then look into this
11:56:59 <braguzz> sudo nano cedricziel
11:57:04 <braguzz> ops sorry
11:57:13 <randomresult> lol
11:57:46 <braguzz> <flux:flexform.field.input
11:58:09 <randomresult> so you use the old versions of everything :)
11:58:31 <randomresult> in the new versions it changed from flux:flexform to flux:form
11:58:50 <randomresult> you can also find a newer version of this bootstrappackage here
11:59:01 <randomresult> https://github.com/Ecodev/bootstrap_package
11:59:04 <braguzz> but If I update something doesnt work?
11:59:18 <randomresult> as far as i can see this version of the package uses the new extensions
11:59:35 <braguzz> in my template I use twboot 2 and not 3
11:59:36 <randomresult> well. all of your templates needs to be migrated to the new namespaces
12:00:26 <braguzz> arrrrghh
12:00:43 <randomresult> there is a migration skript for this. takes minutes to use it
12:01:03 <braguzz> can you instruct me?
12:01:07 <randomresult> https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/documentation/blob/master/Namespaces.md
12:01:15 <randomresult> there is everything u need.
12:03:03 <randomresult> first of all: MAKE A DAMN BACKUP, YOU COWBOY! ( @NamelessCoder)
12:03:07 <randomresult> :)
12:04:32 <braguzz> haha
12:04:41 <braguzz> I'm using a test server
12:04:52 <randomresult> well i dont know if updating will fix your cacheproblem
12:05:05 <braguzz> cedricziel tell me this https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/fluidcontent_bootstrap/issues/99
12:07:43 <randomresult> i dont think iam the right person to talk to concerning this. I would not work on the old versions because when u want to update, there is a lot to do. So i would use the new versions. They worked a lot on these. And im an early adopter. so need new versions!!!
12:10:40 <braguzz> ok thank you!!
12:15:47 <randomresult> and migrating your templates is not too complicated
12:15:56 <randomresult> and another hint:
12:16:06 <randomresult> use a providerextension for your templates
12:16:20 <randomresult> you can find an empty one on github
12:16:31 <randomresult> so you can place your own templates in there
12:17:04 <randomresult> https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/ft3_empty
12:17:22 <randomresult> download this. and follow the instructions there ... simply rename a few files.
12:17:42 <randomresult> then u have your own extensions for elements and pages.
12:25:38 <NamelessCoder> https://fedext.net/download/providerextension/yourextensionkey <- do not click, change "yourextensionkey" to the extension key you need. This outputs a default provider extension.
12:26:45 <randomresult> hehe... you are so fucking crazy
12:27:24 <NamelessCoder> heh ^^
12:27:25 <randomresult> @NamelessCoder builder at its best
12:32:17 <randomresult> do you have a hint for me concerning the textfield ?
12:32:30 <randomresult> @NamelessCoder you know what im talking about ?
12:40:29 <NamelessCoder> what is the problem re textfield?
12:40:48 <randomresult> i have a textfield in all FCE files at the bottom
12:40:58 <randomresult> even in a grid-container
12:41:05 <NamelessCoder> ah an rte field right?
12:41:10 <randomresult> jupp
12:41:19 <NamelessCoder> yeah, haven't located the cause of that one yet
12:41:46 <randomresult> even in FCEs from the bootstrap package (T3 6.1.7 / latest Dev-Versions of flux etc)
12:42:06 <NamelessCoder> yeah I have it too, on 6.1
12:42:13 <randomresult> good#!!!!
12:42:16 <randomresult> very good"
12:42:23 <braguzz> I'do all of this when I rewtite evrithing from scratch
12:42:25 <randomresult> very very very good. thx.
12:42:50 <randomresult> @NamelessCoder you are the first beside me and mrboe
12:43:11 <NamelessCoder> I think it's pretty rare to use the dev versions on 6.1
12:43:13 <randomresult> good. very good. i thought it was my fault.
12:43:26 <randomresult> thank you so much.
12:43:31 * randomresult is happy
12:43:50 <randomresult> i searched hours... no days. noone in here had this problem.
12:45:21 <randomresult> it also appears in t3 6.1.8-dev
14:53:22 <Denyerek> cedricziel, are you around ?
15:44:17 <xaver_> Next TYPO3 Usergroup in Regensburg is fedex topic
15:45:33 <cedricziel> nice xaver_
15:45:38 <cedricziel> tell us if you need anything
15:47:02 <xaver_> this time i don't do the presentaion. Andreas uses a lot longer. I hope he uses the roadmap and future stuff to
15:55:40 <cedricziel> which Andreas?
15:56:38 <xaver_> i think you don't know him
15:56:47 <xaver_> in regensburg the tale one in orga
15:56:56 <cedricziel> what's his last name?
15:57:31 <cedricziel> N.?
15:57:37 <xaver_> http://www.typo3camp-regensburg.de/organisation.html#c96
15:57:53 <cedricziel> kay
16:41:55 <xaver_> cedricziel: if you have something interesting, i would of course show it
16:56:29 <cedricziel> vhs
16:56:31 <cedricziel> period
16:56:41 <braguzz> cpu problem here :(
16:57:51 <braguzz> I tried to put typo3temp in a ramdisk but ...
16:58:32 <cedricziel> braguzz: does your vm live on a physical partition, or in a file container?
16:59:14 <braguzz> I fdont know
16:59:45 <braguzz> it is a vsphere installation
17:02:48 <cedricziel> that's a pitty
17:02:57 <braguzz> no!
17:03:06 <cedricziel> disk i/o is veeeeeery expensive
17:03:14 <braguzz> NO!
17:03:52 <braguzz> and so?
17:03:57 <braguzz> drupal? ;)
17:03:59 <xaver_> typo3temp on RAM is not so useful
17:04:46 <braguzz> now I know
17:04:51 <cedricziel> hmm?
17:04:58 <cedricziel> ahh
17:05:00 <cedricziel> okay
17:05:02 <cedricziel> ja, hm.
17:05:20 <braguzz> I supposed that if I put everything in RAM..
17:05:29 <braguzz> and the problem was access to disk...
17:05:36 <cedricziel> it's a given, once you need to write, that's very expensive
17:06:05 <xaver_> you can use the cache framework and memcache. it should improve stuff
17:06:34 <xaver_> also opcache ..
17:06:34 <cedricziel> you're not the first fighting the cache, that's for sure
17:06:49 <cedricziel> xaver_: braguzz has problems with cache warming
17:07:30 <xaver_> cedricziel: wget crawler and hopyfuly no userspecific content
17:07:56 <braguzz> jalready tried
17:08:29 <cedricziel> ban the clear all caches thing and only let users flush caches of particular pages
17:09:11 <xaver_> if you don't use logins and sessions - disable FE cookie/session - its always accessable
17:09:24 <braguzz> then problem is tx_news
17:09:31 <xaver_> OO
17:09:43 <xaver_> you siabled the cache?
17:10:28 <braguzz> whne user edit a new
17:11:16 <cedricziel> xaver, bring vhs to tugr
17:11:34 <xaver_> ?
17:11:39 <cedricziel> bring exceptional viewhelper chaining powers to the people
17:12:41 <braguzz> system erase some caches pages
17:12:54 <braguzz> home page ecc..
17:12:55 <cedricziel> vhs is the easiest thing to get started all over ft3, as it makes development of UIs in fluid a breeze-regardless of the template management. as long as its fluid
17:13:00 <braguzz> impiega
17:13:18 <braguzz> and it takes 10 15 sec..
17:14:23 <xaver_> braguzz: is your database fast? maybe use more ram on the DB to improv the generating process.
17:14:36 <cedricziel> excellent question xaver
17:14:53 <cedricziel> a bigger query cache can do magic
17:15:06 <xaver_> yeah and not tmp tables on the HD
17:15:12 <xaver_> by joins
17:15:38 <cedricziel> here is a document with many baby steps: http://wiki.typo3.org/Performance_tuning
17:17:19 <cedricziel> braguzz: we have a performance patch by benni mack in the legacy branch of flux: https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/flux/commit/359d06c79f77332316df18540f936fb837a2377b
17:17:20 <braguzz> I tried everything
17:17:21 <Denyerek> which branches to use on a live site of the 5 extensions ?
17:18:38 <cedricziel> braguzz, you could simply apply those indizes
17:18:49 <cedricziel> Denyerek: if you're starting over-development
17:19:03 <cedricziel> those will be master when 6.2 launches
17:19:06 <braguzz> sure I could try
17:19:36 <cedricziel> benni reported a vast performance gain upon usage of the indizes
17:19:41 <Denyerek> ok
17:19:44 <Denyerek> Lemme see if PHP Fatal error: Class 'Tx_Extbase_Utility_Extension' not found in /home/denyerec/clients/alba/htdocs/typo3conf/ext/flux/ext_localconf.php on line 15
17:19:45 <Denyerek> that
17:19:48 <Denyerek> is branch related
17:19:49 <Denyerek> :)
17:20:47 <xaver_> braguzz: what dos emysqltuner.pl say and iotop ...
17:21:05 <braguzz> one thing a time :P
17:21:10 <cedricziel> ;)
17:21:17 <braguzz> thanks!!
17:21:38 <xaver_> is this your server and are the HDD for servers - cheap provider often use good homedrives :P
17:22:09 <cedricziel> xaver, that can be shimmed with a more fine-tuned mysql setup
17:22:53 <xaver_> cedricziel: if your average ms time is a lot lower and all the small files - its a big difference ;)
17:24:10 <cedricziel> sure. firing on all canons should be mean
17:25:01 <Denyerek> Please check your uploaded extension "flux". The configuration file "ext_emconf.php" seems to be invalid.
17:25:17 <Denyerek> That's on latest 6.2 beta with development checkout of flux
17:25:25 <Denyerek> trying extbase extension:install flux
17:25:53 <cedricziel> I'm out for today-cya another day folks
17:26:34 * Denyerek prods NamelessCoder
17:26:48 <Denyerek> Claus it seems I'm finding more installation issues for you ;)
17:27:00 * Denyerek wonders why he can never, not once, get through an installation with anything Typo3 related.
17:27:27 <braguzz> iotop
17:27:34 <braguzz> says mysqld
17:29:34 <Denyerek> xaver_, don't suppose you've got time to troubleshoot an installation roadblocker?
17:30:22 <xaver_> Denyerek: 3 weeks holiday :)
17:30:40 <cedricziel> one quick shot braguzz: dont restart mysqld for a while-then shoot with mysqltuner.pl
17:30:42 <Denyerek> If it takes that long we're both doomed.
17:30:42 <xaver_> more ram mysql braguzz
17:30:57 <xaver_> listen to cedricziel
17:31:06 <cedricziel> it makes useful recommendations for your mysqld configuration
17:31:06 <xaver_> bets results are on a long running server :)
17:31:29 <Denyerek> i can't install flux from extbase
17:31:35 <Denyerek> Gives e that error ^
17:31:39 <Denyerek> Please check your uploaded extension "flux". The configuration file "ext_emconf.php" seems to be invalid.
17:31:43 <xaver_> also you can take a look in phpmyadmin (update version) has alos live stats, variables and recommandations
17:31:49 <Denyerek> I just this minute cloned out master and development branches
17:32:33 <xaver_> Denyerek: delete typo3temp
17:32:44 <braguzz> I'll try
17:33:02 <Denyerek> Oh.
17:33:05 <Denyerek> Easy as that :)
17:33:13 <Denyerek> 2 weeks, 6.99 days of holiday remaining.
17:33:27 <Denyerek> cached extension list in typo3temp ?
17:33:35 <Guest|16690> hi! i have some performance issues: what means in admpanel:
17:33:39 <Guest|16690> Parse template 80 351 +7 =358 {$config.productName}, {$plugin.tx_mediacenter_pi1.flashvars.fullscreen}, {$plugin.tx_dropdownsitemap_pi1.excludeDokTypes}, {$plugin.tx_dropdownsitemap_pi1.linkTest}, {$plugin.tx_apimacmade_pi1.hasWebToolkit.base64}, {$plugin.tx_apimacmade_pi1.hasWebToolkit.crc32}, {$plugin.tx_apimacmade_pi1.hasWebToolkit.md5},
17:33:39 <Guest|16690> {$plugin.tx_apimacmade_pi1.hasWebToolkit.sha1}, {$plugin.tx_apimacmade_pi1.hasWebToolkit.sha256}, {$plugin.tx_apimacmade_pi1.hasWebToolkit.url}, {$plugin.tx_apimacmade_pi1.hasWebToolkit.utf8}, {$config.productName}: Constants may remain un-substituted!!
17:33:49 <cedricziel> ey
17:33:50 <Guest|16690> Parse template 80 351 +7 =358 {Constants may remain un-substituted!!
17:33:55 <xaver_> use nopaste or something like that
17:33:56 <Guest|16690> sorry
17:33:59 <cedricziel> no large pasteins
17:34:02 <cedricziel> ;)
17:34:09 <Guest|16690> twice
17:34:11 <Guest|16690> ;)
17:34:23 <xaver_> http://nopaste.chaoz-irc.net/
17:34:30 <Guest|16690> the page is super slow
17:34:31 <Guest|16690> thx
17:34:32 <cedricziel> gist.github.com
17:35:39 <cedricziel> Guest|16690: you should ask in #typo3 if this is a general, typo3 related problem and not directly related with ft3 extensions
17:36:42 <Guest|16690> but i use fluid
17:38:41 <cedricziel> flux?
17:39:48 <cedricziel> okay, gone now. cya
17:43:49 <xaver_> bye
17:50:44 <Denyerek> xaver_, when writing my templates, I'm still tempted to include CSS via typoscript.
17:50:54 <Denyerek> Is that a sensible thing to do ?
17:51:04 <Denyerek> CSS and JS libs, actually.
17:51:20 <Denyerek> As for some reason I think Typo being in charge of the <head> makes sense to me.
17:58:48 <Denyerek> Claus - I'm building a page template (Finally actually got to the code now!)
17:59:03 <Denyerek> I'm wondering what's the best way to add the CSS, as that will dictate how I write the CSS
17:59:20 <Denyerek> EG, it has to link to images, but I don't know how (From the CSS) those paths should look.
18:12:29 <xaver_> i use vhs
18:37:07 <Denyerek> TO include the css xaver ?
18:37:33 <Denyerek> What do the paths in the CSS look like ?
19:58:57 <xaver_> http://store.steampowered.com/app/237870/
19:59:08 <xaver_> ups worng chan