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20140317

07:54:52 <mrboe-> good morning
08:06:50 <randomresult> good morningn
08:06:51 <FT3BOT> Welcome back randomresult!
08:21:38 <randomresult> @NamelessCoder u there?
08:56:57 <braguzz> morning
08:57:49 <braguzz> writeCachedConfigurationIfMissing() is my problem
08:58:00 <braguzz> writing Cache is really slow
10:44:49 <randomresult> good morning fedext
10:44:55 <randomresult> time to wake up!
11:18:40 <braguzz> I'm trying to use the developer git version of fluidcontetn but I have some errors in flux dependencies
11:19:20 <randomresult> well... the extmngr is not able to install it because of the -dev in the extkey
11:19:55 <randomresult> and i think you need to update all ext to dev-branch
11:20:41 <randomresult> a way to install them all is to install the TER versions of the extensions and then replace them in the filesystem with the dev-branches
11:20:54 <randomresult> but u then need to go to the installtool and make a db-compare
11:21:38 <randomresult> and maybe run the updateskript of the extensions (find a recyclebutton in the extmanager on the right side of each extensions - when they have a update/migration script)
11:21:44 <braguzz> mmm I could try
11:22:21 <randomresult> or u build a small provieder ext with the dependencies u need after installing flux. (without flux)
11:22:34 <randomresult> then try to install that ext twice... will fool the extmanager
11:22:38 <braguzz> I see that there is some changes in caching
11:23:42 <randomresult> so currently you are on TER versions?
11:23:54 <braguzz> yes
11:23:56 <randomresult> there are major changes compared with that
11:24:19 <randomresult> you will need to run a migrationscript cause the new ones are diffrent now
11:25:15 <braguzz> flux had a migration script
11:25:20 <randomresult> see here https://github.com/FluidTYPO3/documentation/blob/master/Namespaces.md
11:25:21 <braguzz> some days ago
11:25:32 <randomresult> you work with own templates?
11:25:45 <randomresult> then u need to read this. it is really simple.
11:26:43 <braguzz> there was a migration script in 6.0.3 of flux
11:27:04 <randomresult> well a lot of things changed in 7.0
11:28:05 <braguzz> the only one that work bad in my configuration is the cache
11:28:18 <randomresult> typo3 version?
11:28:24 <braguzz> 6.1.5
11:28:38 <randomresult> there is a 6.1.7 i think.
11:28:51 <braguzz> 6.1.5dev
11:29:31 <randomresult> and i dont use the old versions of fedext. so i would first update the t3 install to the new t3 6.1.7 (in my case i switched to 6.2 beta)
11:30:19 <randomresult> make a backup. switch to the new extensions - run the migrationskript for your providerextension and give it a try
11:31:27 <randomresult> the migrationscript means less than a minute :)
11:31:46 <braguzz> I cant do it with 6.1.5 ?
11:31:52 <randomresult> sure
11:32:21 <braguzz> I could try
11:32:35 <braguzz> or I could wait for 6.2 dev...
11:32:37 <braguzz> ;)
11:32:50 <randomresult> wrong answer. right one would be: i try right now. ill be back in 5 minutes
11:33:36 <randomresult> :)
11:34:07 <braguzz> coffee now.
11:34:14 <braguzz> I'll be back in 5 minutes
11:34:24 <randomresult> you are italian right?
11:34:37 <randomresult> than this is the correct answer :)
11:34:45 <braguzz> yes
11:34:47 <braguzz> ;)
11:34:48 <randomresult> grab on for me too... im missing italian espresso
11:35:14 <braguzz> our cooffee machine is terrible, but I'll grab one for you too..
11:36:08 <randomresult> no, thx. we have a terrible one here too
11:36:13 <randomresult> ill go for a water
11:36:15 <randomresult> where u from?
11:44:14 <braguzz> tuscany
11:45:37 <randomresult> just step outside the door and grab an espresso in a bar... less than 1 euro right?
11:45:50 <braguzz> 1 euro
11:46:09 <randomresult> and u get an espresso out of a terrible machine?
11:46:22 <braguzz> yes :S
11:46:32 <randomresult> you are young dont u?
11:46:51 <braguzz> no random not young
11:47:39 <randomresult> then stupid :)
11:47:59 <randomresult> sorry. wasnt meant this way.
11:48:18 <randomresult> i love italy and the coffee there. can not understand how to not have a good coffee
11:48:29 <braguzz> not so sane ..
11:49:27 <braguzz> If you want good expressos there are some cooffee machine that are really good
11:50:05 <randomresult> braguzz i tried everything here... wrong water, wrong coffee wrong country... simple as that
11:50:24 <braguzz> nespresso
11:50:36 <randomresult> go to hell you damn bastard :)
11:50:39 <braguzz> or something like that
11:51:04 <braguzz> to nespresso?
11:51:35 <randomresult> go updating and migrate your provider-ext
11:51:40 <randomresult> :)
11:51:42 <braguzz> hihi
11:51:59 <braguzz> with dev?
11:52:36 <randomresult> replace flux/pages/content with the dev versions.
11:52:49 <randomresult> then migrate your extension with the migration-script
11:52:59 <braguzz> ok I'll back in 5 min
11:53:03 <randomresult> u have a providerExt?
11:53:46 <braguzz> no
11:54:46 <randomresult> so how do u add templates?
11:54:56 <randomresult> fluidcontent_bootstrap?
11:55:03 <randomresult> fluidpages_bootstrap?
12:04:50 <braguzz> caching is now fast
12:04:57 <randomresult> good.
12:05:06 <braguzz> but probably I have some problems in my template
12:05:16 <randomresult> but what do u use for your templates if no provider ext?
12:05:24 <randomresult> where do u store your templates?
12:05:31 <braguzz> I dont know what is a provider ext.
12:05:34 <braguzz> I have to admit
12:05:37 <randomresult> :)
12:05:48 <braguzz> I have the 'speciality' ext
12:05:56 <randomresult> oh ok.
12:05:58 <braguzz> with some template ecc..
12:06:08 <randomresult> well ... sort of this is an provider extension.
12:06:12 <randomresult> but not your own.
12:06:27 <randomresult> this ext stores alle configurateion and templates of your web
12:06:51 <braguzz> I have Templating tags not properly nested. Expected: FluidTYPO3\Flux\ViewHelpers\Grid\RowViewHelper; Actual: Tx_Flux_ViewHelpers_Flexform_Grid_RowViewHelper
12:07:17 <randomresult> did u run the migrationscript on speciality?
12:07:29 <braguzz> no I should I suppose ;)
12:07:38 <randomresult> yes you should.
12:09:54 <braguzz> but the script doesnt run in all exts?
12:10:59 <randomresult> you can defiine a folder
12:11:16 <braguzz> I put in the ext folder
12:11:37 <randomresult> so it runs on all..
12:11:52 <randomresult> you can define the speciality folder as well...
12:11:55 <braguzz> It what that I supposed
12:11:57 <braguzz> ok
12:12:11 <randomresult> but... MAKE A BACKUP YOU DAMN COWBOY
12:13:07 <braguzz> sure
12:13:15 <braguzz> I'm working on another server
12:13:16 <braguzz> ;)
12:13:29 <braguzz> it modify one only template
12:14:10 <randomresult> and? problems are gone?
12:14:17 <randomresult> at least it was one file
12:15:38 <braguzz> no problems remain
12:16:04 <randomresult> well... does it work or not?
12:18:08 <braguzz> change the templateparser problem gone
12:21:44 <braguzz> and ... I cant enable fluidcontent 4.0-dev
12:21:55 <braguzz> Could not resolve dependency for "flux"
12:40:51 <randomresult> this is a problem with the -dev name
12:41:29 <randomresult> so i do it that way: install all TER versions. Then replace them with the new ones. (simply copy them into the ext folder) - then run dbcompare.
12:41:35 <randomresult> works for me
12:49:16 <braguzz> update everything to dev
12:49:23 <braguzz> evrything works!
12:49:25 <braguzz> wow
12:49:27 <randomresult> good!
12:49:32 <randomresult> cache?
12:49:33 <braguzz> but
12:49:38 <randomresult> i hate buts
12:49:40 <braguzz> SLOW!!
12:50:11 <randomresult> not in my case. did u run db-compare?
12:50:11 <braguzz> is slow
12:50:39 <randomresult> did u clear temp (completely? - including .FEDCONTENT file? )
12:52:42 <braguzz> I think that it doesnt create FEDCONTENT
12:52:45 <braguzz> now
12:54:07 <randomresult> still the old version of 6.1 ?
12:54:26 <braguzz> yes
12:55:45 <randomresult> ok. i would simply update this by replacing the source ... but i think im the wrong person to speak to... maybe @NamelessCoder or @cedricziel (and the rest of the team)
12:57:28 <braguzz> but I think that one step ahead we have done
12:57:44 <randomresult> yeah. and you should be ready for 6.2 now
12:57:54 <braguzz> emptying all the cache is a 20 second process
12:58:04 <randomresult> thats wired...
12:58:08 <braguzz> but
12:58:24 <braguzz> empting one only page
12:58:30 <braguzz> is fast
12:58:34 <randomresult> i cant reproduce that. even on my 6.1 installs this is a one second thing...
12:58:59 <randomresult> die u check your ext with builder?
12:59:12 <braguzz> no
12:59:20 <randomresult> maybe there is also a new version of this speciality ext
12:59:36 <braguzz> yes but is based on boostrap 3
12:59:49 <randomresult> im not working with prefabricated providerextensions
13:00:07 <braguzz> but I dont think is a 'speciality' problem
13:00:27 <braguzz> probably the performance problem is due to virtualizated environment
13:00:28 <randomresult> why not updating t3?
13:00:32 <randomresult> its a no brainer?
13:00:47 <braguzz> I have to revrite all the templates
13:01:12 <randomresult> then try an update to 6.1.7 should be easy
13:01:25 <randomresult> or try a non virtualized environment
13:01:26 <braguzz> should
13:01:39 <randomresult> it is easy.
13:01:46 <braguzz> I have no hard server rihht now
13:01:55 <randomresult> simply replace typo3 and t3lib folder
13:02:01 <randomresult> reload backend ur done
13:02:11 <braguzz> m
13:09:04 <braguzz> 6.2 ?
13:09:44 <randomresult> i would go for 6.1.7 first
13:37:27 <Guest|61727> hey guys. I can't seem to find out how to read the page-title using vhs and the alike. I'm sure it's easy, but I can't quite do it. Can anyone help me out?
13:45:19 <braguzz> 6.1.7 here
13:47:06 <braguzz> empyng the cache is a slow process
13:47:28 <randomresult> so i guess its your environment
13:47:52 <randomresult> get an uberspace account and try it there
13:47:56 <braguzz> LAAMP and hardware?
13:48:19 <randomresult> i dont know your setup. but i never experinced that
13:51:02 <braguzz> but you talking about this LAMP and ardware
13:53:04 <randomresult> braguzz i simply would test it in another envrionment. takes u less than 10 minutes to do that
13:53:14 <randomresult> maybe 20
13:53:44 <randomresult> that is what i would do. or ask the team where to search. i cant help u with that. im a simple integrator
13:55:04 <Guest|61727> is there any viewhelper to just read the pagetitle?
13:55:19 <braguzz> for me would be fine (for now)
13:55:23 <cedricziel> v:page.info holds all the info
13:55:40 <cedricziel> if you're in the appropriate context, you always have {page}
13:55:41 <randomresult> hi cedricziel
13:55:42 <BenjaminR> Guest: But if you use fluid page templates there is already the page variable present
13:55:55 <braguzz> inprovements that dev version give me
13:56:03 <cedricziel> wget get.typo3.org/6.1 -O 6.1-current.tgz && tar xzf 6.1.current.tgz && rm typo3_src && symlink again
13:57:04 <braguzz> but it is safe to use dev version?
13:57:11 <cedricziel> dev version of what?
13:57:35 <braguzz> flux fluidpages fluidcontent
13:58:04 <randomresult> braguzz now u have someone who knows what he is talking about
13:58:34 <cedricziel> depends on the branch you are using and the target branch you want to use
13:58:47 <braguzz> thanks rendom, but I think that I will only annoy him...
13:59:04 <randomresult> no, you dont!
13:59:14 <randomresult> he knows me... and he is still helping me :)
13:59:36 <braguzz> summary: emping cache is slow
13:59:41 <Guest|61727> oh, thanks a lot, I was just using it incorrectly!
13:59:45 <cedricziel> ahh, ye olde problem
13:59:54 <braguzz> problem is fluidpages caching
13:59:54 <cedricziel> Guest|61727: you're welcome
14:00:08 <cedricziel> i saw a ticket from last night or so
14:00:18 <braguzz> I've installed dev version and
14:00:46 <braguzz> (because I saw that cache is managed in different way)
14:01:22 <braguzz> I have some improvements because at least emptying the cache of one page is fast
14:02:27 <braguzz> I use TCEMAIN.clearCacheCmd to clear the page of some pages
14:02:41 <braguzz> when someone edit a news with tx_news
14:02:48 <cedricziel> fluidcontent#132 this one?
14:02:49 <FT3BOT> Issue 132: performance in writeCachedConfigurationIfMissing https://github.com/fluidtypo3/fluidcontent/issues/132
14:02:57 <braguzz> yes
14:03:21 <cedricziel> i am annoyed, because you refer to fluidpages
14:03:45 <cedricziel> what version are we talking about?
14:03:58 <braguzz> last version from ter
14:04:09 <cedricziel> 3.1.0?
14:04:12 <braguzz> yes
14:05:51 <cedricziel> if you are already in the stage of debugging-can you tell me which part of writeCachedConfigurationIfMissing is slow?
14:06:13 <braguzz> I'm not get so deep
14:06:57 <braguzz> I only saw that if I disable it empty the cache was fast
14:07:30 <braguzz> now I cant reproduce because I've already installed dev version of flux ecc..
14:07:48 <cedricziel> and it's faster now?
14:08:14 <braguzz> it is fast if I clear one page
14:08:24 <braguzz> if I clear all pages is slow
14:08:46 <braguzz> but for my requirements its a good result
14:12:29 <braguzz> thank you all for today
14:12:50 <cedricziel> how many templates do you have (as in TS-Templates)
14:13:35 <braguzz> 5
14:13:51 <randomresult> hmmm fluidpages_bootstrap still uses bootstrap2 in dev-branch?
14:15:40 <cedricziel> fluidpages_bootstrap is more or less deprecated. the bootstrap package doesnt use it anymore and shows a nice way around
14:15:58 <cedricziel> that's mostly because page templates are even more specific than FCEs
14:16:07 <cedricziel> but feel free to contribute
14:16:18 <randomresult> NamelessCoder talked to me yesterday
14:16:21 <cedricziel> it's alive as long as somebody maintans it actively
14:17:35 <braguzz> thank you all tomorrow I'll be here to annoy!
14:17:42 <braguzz> :P
14:17:45 <cedricziel> ;)
14:17:46 <randomresult> have a good time braguzz
14:17:47 <cedricziel> have a nice day
14:17:58 <braguzz> ok thank you
14:18:01 <braguzz> ;)
14:18:08 <braguzz> go to a good coofee
14:18:17 <cedricziel> nice idea
14:18:22 <cedricziel> coffeetime!
14:18:31 <randomresult> cedricziel he is in italy... dont mess with him :)
14:19:37 <cedricziel> i bet the coffee NamelessCoder sends around from time to time can mess with it :)
14:19:53 <cedricziel> That's serious gourmet shit!
14:19:55 <randomresult> well... the coffee may be does.
14:20:04 <randomresult> but your water and ur maschine doesnt
14:20:09 <cedricziel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naLwC-GhCMk
14:20:26 <cedricziel> manual grinder and french-press, please :)
14:20:35 <xaver> NamelessCoder: coffee ?!
14:20:37 <randomresult> go home
14:20:42 <xaver> i love coffee
14:20:43 <BenjaminR> rr: my maschine http://www.bezzera.it/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=37&Itemid=158&lang=en
14:20:44 <BenjaminR> ;)
14:21:04 <randomresult> your water?
14:21:04 <xaver> BenjaminR: mmh i have no BZ10 - i dont need hot water
14:21:18 <xaver> BenjaminR: my maschine http://www.bezzera.it/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54&Itemid=175&lang=en
14:21:19 <randomresult> at least your are not in italy
14:21:36 <BenjaminR> been last weekend ;)
14:21:42 <randomresult> its like drinking greek wine in germany...
14:21:47 <BenjaminR> Just to compare the coffee they serve and i serve
14:21:48 <cedricziel> water? we've got some serious quality measures here
14:22:04 <randomresult> cedricziel maybe thats a reason!
14:22:18 <cedricziel> how can coffee be more pure if you use a manual grind at a grane of your liking and a french press?
14:22:29 <cedricziel> NomNom
14:22:42 <randomresult> the problem is the word french
14:22:48 <randomresult> stands for bad coffee
14:22:50 <randomresult> :)
14:22:50 <xaver> cedricziel: no i mean BZ10 is a 2 crucet? maschine - good for steam and coffee
14:23:24 <cedricziel> aaaahh, hehe. yes, but its a term only. no french slaves involved here ;)
14:23:28 <BenjaminR> cedric: with a manual grinder and a bezzera ;)
14:23:34 <BenjaminR> xaver: it is
14:23:43 <BenjaminR> cause of the steam i decided to take a 2 crucet
14:23:46 <randomresult> BenjaminR a holiday in italy... thats the deal
14:24:13 <BenjaminR> i am not a pro and want my coffe fast so 2 crucet is for comfort
14:24:15 <xaver> i use a old industial grinder with new elemtns
14:24:27 <BenjaminR> rr: a weekend in italy :) dont call it holiday. thats not fair :D
14:25:54 <randomresult> enough time to grab a lot of coffee
14:26:00 <BenjaminR> true
14:26:16 <xaver> anybody here roast his own beans?
14:26:26 <randomresult> xaver not me
14:27:07 <BenjaminR> also not, get mine from a tiny roast house
14:27:52 <xaver> i switch sometimes. my fav are maria sole - yellow ones - hand roasted over olive wood
14:28:54 <soee_> randomresult: hi i just came home, you wanted something erliaer?
14:58:02 <randomresult> hi pedda
14:59:04 <pedda> hi
14:59:18 <pedda> any GIFBUILDER cracks around?
14:59:38 <pedda> i'm messing with some monochrome pdf being used as mask
14:59:42 <randomresult> we have heavy christal meth users in here... crack is outdated
14:59:46 <pedda> with poor quality result
14:59:57 <randomresult> sorry, cant help
15:00:06 <randomresult> (as usual)
15:01:31 <xaver> pedda: try the typo3 chan :P
15:01:49 <pedda> i will
15:06:41 <pedda> i'm not that bad at dealing with gifbuilder… but that task drives me nuts atm ö_Ö
15:07:21 <pedda> i'm leaking fundamental knowledge of computer graphics
15:17:00 <xaver> ii try to never use that stuff
15:35:21 <pedda> hehe.. it can come in very handy when dealing with lots of images with same characteristics.. but it's quite hard to get it up and running the way you need it
15:36:17 <xaver> it uses libgd or?
15:36:50 <xaver> gdlib is so inefficent -_-
15:37:27 <pedda> it depends on how you configured it
15:37:38 <pedda> afaik it uses either im or gm
15:37:51 <pedda> if png's come into play then libgd is used too
16:19:55 <cedricziel> if in doubt-toast a new IM
16:20:05 <cedricziel> pretty straight forward
18:01:28 <pedda> @cedricziel: ?
18:01:45 <cedricziel> yessir
18:01:54 <pedda> @cedricziel: if in doubt-toast a new IM <- ?
18:01:58 <pedda> didn't get you
18:02:09 <pedda> were you talking to me at all ?
18:02:13 <pedda> no really hum?
18:02:35 <pedda> *not
18:02:45 <cedricziel> hehe
18:03:20 <cedricziel> i toast new ImageMagick versions all day long when i'm on a shared hoster with a crappy old version
18:03:38 <cedricziel> toast as in http://www.toastball.net/toast/man
18:04:01 <cedricziel> (=simplified untar, configure, make, make install - in userspace)
18:04:36 <pedda> nice .. but tbh.. i thought i've would go with the one i have actually..
18:04:42 <pedda> didn'Ät think about upgrading
18:05:12 <pedda> damnit.. fat fingers are around the block again ;)
18:05:17 <cedricziel> hehe
18:05:26 <pedda> i was up til 5:30.. and were back in office at 9 -.-
18:05:35 <pedda> kinda wasted
18:05:48 <cedricziel> shit happens
18:05:48 <pedda> everyone and anything is a bit slower today :D
18:06:08 <pedda> so i desiced to struggle a bit just to make sure i spend time ;)
18:06:17 <cedricziel> i usually upgrade 1&1 shared hosting packages and stuff with a new IM
18:06:50 <cedricziel> as long as there's make/gcc and a shell, those are all nice :)
18:06:52 <pedda> (6.6.9-7)
18:07:06 <pedda> is the version i use
18:07:20 <pedda> iirc there is a lot stuf changing from version to version..
18:07:26 <pedda> it might be worth upgrading
18:07:38 <cedricziel> but the most important thing: you can even make lib* packages with it.-which lets you upgrade the magicians stick basically
18:08:11 <cedricziel> say, libpng is crap-the hosts convert will use it, because it's linked against
18:08:31 <cedricziel> so.. toast yourself libpng and IM against that->voila!
18:09:52 <pedda> hmm nice
18:12:24 <cedricziel> for sure